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Old 11-01-2009, 11:56 AM
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6-A-1 THE TRIANGLE ASSEMBLY The Power Package is basically a Triangle and this form puts it under the Law of the Triangle. The Straight Left Arm forms Side One, the Shoulders form the second Side and a line from the Right Shoulder to Hands forms the Third Side – whether the Right Arm is straight or bent. So the shape of the Triangle can be changed only by changing the length of the Third Side. Also, regarding Structure, study 6-B-1-D and 6-B-3-0-1.
The Question I asked myself was "How much of the shortening side of the triangle was attributed to a Lateral Slide of the Hands vs. a Turning and Rolling of the Hands (Swivel).

I found an answer by examining Single Wrist Action vs. Standard Wrist Action. This lead to an Inherent relationship in 7-3 Strokes Basic and 7-18 Left Wrist Action.

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10-18-A STANDARD With this procedure with Wrist is Turned and Cocked (FCT) during the Backstroke which requires that it be Rolled and Uncocked during the Release. Only where this procedure is used, do the Hands “Swivel” into Hinge Action Position. Study 4-D-0.
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10-18-C SINGLE Here, the Left Wrist is Cocked but not Turned. The Action has three alternative procedures:
1. Let the Pivot bring Horizontal Hinging to a normal On Plane “Top” position.
2. Let the Pivot bring Angled Hinging to a normal On Plane “Top” postion.
3. Hold the Wrist – “Vertical” throughout for a True Single Action “Top” position.
Because there is actually NO HAND MOTION during the Stroke, the Clubhead Fix alignment remains undisturbed.
Ben Hogan, on the Ed Sullivan Show, demonstrates Keeping the Elbows Close to his sides as he swings a club. Each arm of the Triangle shortens and lengthens as the hands are allowed to turn and roll. He somewhat demonstrates Standard Wrist Action.

If you aren't familiar with this video, click the link below.



Below is a Photo sequence of Ernie Els. I've superimposed 3 Triangle shapes to illustrate how and when the Triangle changes. The illustrations aren't perfectly accurate but they are accurate enough to illustrate that most of the changes in the shape of the Triangle stem from Swiveling the Hands when using a Swinging procedure.

Also interesting, is how his address Triangle shape closely matches his Impact Triangle shape (Bent Right Elbow) and that his shoulder rotation, not lateral hand slide, carries the Hands to each of the subsequent Locations. In other words, from Impact to Finish Swivel, his hands have stayed close to Center of his Torso and most of the Triangle change is due to Hand Swivel.

3 Triangles are presented. Black, Orange and Blue. The Orange Triangle represents Both Arms Straight and we can assume centered in the Torso. The Black and Blue triangles also illustrate the Hands Centered in the Torso, yet illustrate how hands rotation, almost singly, causes the Triangle shape to change while it causes the Right Elbow to Unbend thus, lengthening the Right Arm..

Examine carefully photo #4. Both arms appear straight but the Triangle has the same off-centered appearance as address. This is possible because of Hand Rotation. Look at the next Photo and see that as Both arms are straight and the Hands are Centered in the Torso, that the Right Hand has Fully Rotated and is above of the Left Hand. (the left hand moved lower as the #3 pressure point continued to trace the base line) The Hands aren't centered on the torso at Impact but only when the Right Hand has Swiveled over the Left Hand. Swingers when centering their hands on the torso, with both arms straight should have a fully rotated (Rolled - Swiveled)Right Hand (Right Hand above the Left Hand). This means that the Right Hand started Rolling over the Primary Lever while the Right Elbow is Bent and as the hands pass the line of sight to the ball.

The Wrists are the Tip of the Triangle, extend your arms in front of you and swivel your hands and watch the #3 Pressure Point travel from right to left as the Wrists remain centered in your torso and the elbows bend to accommodate the rotation.



I have nothing to show for a Hitter, so this comparison falls short. But from my own trials, Single Wrist Action Slides the Hands Left to Right and Right to Left while changing the Triangle without Hand Rotation.


This is in accordance with TGM. It only adds a little transparency to differences between Single and Standard Wrist Action through the Impact Zone and differences in what causes the Triangle to change shape.

For the True Swinger, the Pull of CF will force a Sequenced Release and cause the Wrist to Uncock and Roll which bends the Elbows and changes the shape of the Triangle.

The Hitter, the Triangle changes because Right Arm Thrust with Paddle-wheel motion, of the Right Hand, Thrusts the Hands across the Torso.

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Warning: Vapid, and a lot about very little.



The Question I asked myself was "How much of the shortening side of the triangle was attributed to a Lateral Slide of the Hands vs. a Turning and Rolling of the Hands (Swivel).

I found an answer by examining Single Wrist Action vs. Standard Wrist Action. This lead to an Inherent relationship in 7-3 Strokes Basic and 7-18 Left Wrist Action.





Ben Hogan, on the Ed Sullivan Show, demonstrates Keeping the Elbows Close to his sides as he swings a club. Each arm of the Triangle shortens and lengthens as the hands are allowed to turn and roll. He somewhat demonstrates Standard Wrist Action.

If you aren't familiar with this video, click the link below.



Below is a Photo sequence of Ernie Els. I've superimposed 3 Triangle shapes to illustrate how and when the Triangle changes. The illustrations aren't perfectly accurate but they are accurate enough to illustrate that most of the changes in the shape of the Triangle stem from Swiveling the Hands when using a Swinging procedure.

Also interesting, is how his address Triangle shape closely matches his Impact Triangle shape (Bent Right Elbow) and that his shoulder rotation, not lateral hand slide, carries the Hands to each of the subsequent Locations. In other words, from Impact to Finish Swivel, his hands have stayed close to Center of his Torso and most of the Triangle change is due to Hand Swivel.

3 Triangles are presented. Black, Orange and Blue. The Orange Triangle represents Both Arms Straight and we can assume centered in the Torso. The Black and Blue triangles also illustrate the Hands Centered in the Torso, yet illustrate how hands rotation, almost singly, causes the Triangle shape to change while it causes the Right Elbow to Unbend thus, lengthening the Right Arm..

Examine carefully photo #4. Both arms appear straight but the Triangle has the same off-centered appearance as address. This is possible because of Hand Rotation. Look at the next Photo and see that as Both arms are straight and the Hands are Centered in the Torso, that the Right Hand has Fully Rotated and is above of the Left Hand. (the left hand moved lower as the #3 pressure point continued to trace the base line) The Hands aren't centered on the torso at Impact but only when the Right Hand has Swiveled over the Left Hand. Swingers when centering their hands on the torso, with both arms straight should have a fully rotated (Rolled - Swiveled)Right Hand (Right Hand above the Left Hand). This means that the Right Hand started Rolling over the Primary Lever while the Right Elbow is Bent and as the hands pass the line of sight to the ball.

The Wrists are the Tip of the Triangle, extend your arms in front of you and swivel your hands and watch the #3 Pressure Point travel from right to left as the Wrists remain centered in your torso and the elbows bend to accommodate the rotation.



I have nothing to show for a Hitter, so this comparison falls short. But from my own trials, Single Wrist Action Slides the Hands Left to Right and Right to Left while changing the Triangle without Hand Rotation.


This is in accordance with TGM. It only adds a little transparency to differences between Single and Standard Wrist Action through the Impact Zone and differences in what causes the Triangle to change shape.

For the True Swinger, the Pull of CF will force a Sequenced Release and cause the Wrist to Uncock and Roll which bends the Elbows and changes the shape of the Triangle.

The Hitter, the Triangle changes because Right Arm Thrust with Paddle-wheel motion, of the Right Hand, Thrusts the Hands across the Torso.
There's a few more items to consider in this story you is crafty crafting . . . .

1. Els has a suuuuuuuper weak grip
2. Look at his head and his right shoulder . . . Down and back . . .Plane Line is out to the right.
3. Them two things combined compromise the hinge action of his club . . . . no question he's a swinger but that face goes FAST for reasons OTHER THAN his selected procedure . . . he's a wrist rubber.
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
There's a few more items to consider in this story you is crafty crafting . . . .

1. Els has a suuuuuuuper weak grip Really?

2. Look at his head and his right shoulder . . . Down and back . . .Plane Line is out to the right. Which Frame?

3. Them two things combined compromise the hinge action of his club . . . . no question he's a swinger but that face goes FAST for reasons OTHER THAN his selected procedure . . . he's a wrist rubber. I'm not familiar with that Term
Well, I was only thinking about it.

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grip = weak

check the leaves up by his head at address then look at 'em in relation to his head in the impact on thru frames . . .

I'll let Mikey tell you about wrist rubbing . . . .he's 7th degree ninja level at that . . . seek from the "master" . . . ah hewwmmmm.
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