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Old 05-30-2010, 09:39 PM
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The little nuggets of wisdom you find here are wonderful.
This is a post by Yoda that I came across and it is fantastic.

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Remember the Hands are already On Plane. The Right Shoulder is not. Therefore, the Shoulder must Turn back to the Plane (its job) while the Hands remain On Plane (their job). And the player's means of accomplishing this geometric purpose is...

The On-Line Right Forearm Takeaway.
I was making it waaaaaaaay too complex and as such I have always struggled with the RFT. I thought OK I have to fan the right arm, then I have to let the pivot begin, then I have to do all of these other things.

I used to get all over the place with it, mainly too deep inside which lead to me being over the top.

This made me look at it in a completely different light.

Essentially the hands just need to trace that plane line UP and they are already where they need to be. Just use the RFT to keep those hands going UP THAT LINE and don't let anything else assist in this process or hinder the process and you are golden.

Fanning, pivoting, and all other things basically want to happen as long as I get my brain out of the way and make my right forearm keep those hands on that line.

Genius

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Old 05-30-2010, 11:10 PM
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The take away is improving quite a bit now.

I'm hitting balls in the garage and before I hit a ball its 4 back swings while watching my monitor, then 4 eyes closed back swing while thinking about that diagonal line, then 1 more watching the monitor.

Then I hit.

After only 15 minutes it is already quite a bit better.
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by grantc79 View Post

The take away is improving quite a bit now.

I'm hitting balls in the garage and before I hit a ball its 4 back swings while watching my monitor, then 4 eyes closed back swing while thinking about that diagonal line, then 1 more watching the monitor.

Then I hit.

After only 15 minutes it is already quite a bit better.
GrantC79,

You now have the correct conception.

And, you are monitoring that conception as you should . . . and must.

Here's a helpful drill:

Without a club, but with a ball located on the Target Line, and as normal, between your feet, take a ball in your right hand and position it within the 'question mark' of your 'trigger' finger (#3 Pressure Point) and thumb. Now, simply take that right hand forefinger (and its contents) to your right shoulder and AIM it toward the ball. THAT is the position -- I prefer the word 'alignment' -- you seek.

Now, at the considerable risk of threadjacking -- -- let me add:

Simply complete the motion: Throw the ball DIRECTLY at AND THROUGH the ball on the ground. Make sure you continue this Straight Line Motion UNTIL YOUR RIGHT ARM IS STRAIGHT (end of the DOWN PLANE Follow-Through).

It is toward this end in the Golf Stroke that your THRUST must be directed (both arms straight, left and right). Despite the incidental 'up and in' of the Clubhead orbit after Low Point (opposite the Left Shoulder), there is NO UPSTROKE until the Right Forearm Drive (toward the Base Line of the Plane) has been accomplished.

No swinging 'toward the target'.

No swinging 'level' or 'up'.

Only swinging Down Plane.

DOWN PLANE.

From the Top . . .

Through Start Down . . .

Downstroke . . .

Release . . .

Impact . . .

And Follow-Through.

DOWN PLANE.

Down Plane to Full Extension (of Left Arm and Club).

Absolutely, the Left Side must function, particularly the Pivot (Power Package Acceleration and Delivery); the Left Arm (Checkrein Acton on the right arm); and the Left Wrist (Uncocking, Swivel and Hinge Actions). But, within the mechanism, this is the right-sided Strike of the Champions. With purpose and intent . . .

It can be yours.

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Old 06-01-2010, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post

Here's a necessary drill:
........... Simply complete the motion: Throw the ball at AND THROUGH the ball on the ground. Just throw the ball in your right forefinger 'question mark' DIRECTLY at the ball between your feet. Make sure you continue this Straight Line Motion UNTIL YOUR RIGHT ARM IS STRAIGHT.
Oh,,,,That should be bottled and labeled. If I may be so bold to add: Bent Right Wrist without Rotational or Perpendicular motion: CF will pull the ball out of the "Question Mark". (On-Plane Roll)


Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
It is toward this end in the Golf Stroke that your THRUST must be directed (both arms straight, left and right). Despite the incidental 'up and in' of the Clubhead orbit after Low Point (opposite the Left Shoulder), there is NO UPSTROKE until the Right Forearm Drive (toward the Base Line of the Plane) has been accomplished.
There will be a Downward force only while the Right Arm is straightening. Don't run out of Right Arm.
That should be in the Book: "Magic of the Triangle"

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Old 06-01-2010, 11:12 AM
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Great stuff guys.

Thank you
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Old 06-01-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
GrantC79,

You now have the correct conception.

And, you are monitoring that conception as you should . . . and must.

Here's a helpful drill:

Without a club, but with a ball located on the Target Line, and as normal, between your feet, take a ball in your right hand and position it within the 'question mark' of your 'trigger' finger (#3 Pressure Point) and thumb. Now, simply take that right hand forefinger (and its contents) to your right shoulder and AIM it toward the ball. THAT is the position -- I prefer the word 'alignment' -- you seek.

Now, at the considerable risk of threadjacking -- -- let me add:

Simply complete the motion: Throw the ball DIRECTLY at AND THROUGH the ball on the ground. Make sure you continue this Straight Line Motion UNTIL YOUR RIGHT ARM IS STRAIGHT (end of the DOWN PLANE Follow-Through).

It is toward this end in the Golf Stroke that your THRUST must be directed (both arms straight, left and right). Despite the incidental 'up and in' of the Clubhead orbit after Low Point (opposite the Left Shoulder), there is NO UPSTROKE until the Right Forearm Drive (toward the Base Line of the Plane) has been accomplished.

No swinging 'toward the target'.

No swinging 'level' or 'up'.

Only swinging Down Plane.

DOWN PLANE.

From the Top . . .

Through Start Down . . .

Downstroke . . .

Release . . .

Impact . . .

And Follow-Through.

DOWN PLANE.

Down Plane to Full Extension (of Left Arm and Club).

Absolutely, the Left Side must function, particularly the Pivot (Power Package Acceleration and Delivery); the Left Arm (Checkrein Acton on the right arm); and the Left Wrist (Uncocking, Swivel and Hinge Actions). But, within the mechanism, this is the right-sided Strike of the Champions. With purpose and intent . . .

It can be yours.


Thanks for the Hall of Fame post Yoda. I saw a photo of a guy doing something like that once. Maybe not exactly that but pretty close and with a nice question mark too at the #3. He looked like he could play some.


http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=127540726 1
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Thanks for the Hall of Fame post Yoda. I saw a photo of a guy doing something like that once. Maybe not exactly that but pretty close and with a nice question mark too at the #3. He looked like he could play some.


http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=127540726 1
Does this same procedure hold for hitting or does it change based on angle or arc of approach?
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:54 PM
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Does this same procedure hold for hitting or does it change based on angle or arc of approach?
Good for hitting along the Arc or the Angle of Approach. Good for Swinging too.

See Aiming Point 6-E-2. And there's always this free video on spear chucking......

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...mp-Wedges.html

And remember that per 6-G-0 . "All motion is focused on Driving the Hands--NOT THE CLUB---toward the BALL. This may with habit seem to become reversed. But this is where and how a players game, "comes apart"."

There more , its a must read if you havent already.
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:41 PM
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Thanks for the Hall of Fame post Yoda. I saw a photo of a guy doing something like that once. Maybe not exactly that but pretty close and with a nice question mark too at the #3. He looked like he could play some.
Thanks for the Ben Hogan photos, O.B. Here, Hogan is demonstrating his concept of the right arm action being similar to that of a baseball infielder throwing sidearm to another base. They were the basis of the famed Anthony Ravielli drawings in Five Lessons.

My only objection to the concept is that the 'ball' (Lag Pressure Thrust) in my recommended drill is not thrown toward some distant target. Instead, it is thrown at and through an Aiming Point (typically the ball) on the ground. That Down Plane Thrust (through the Aiming Point) continues until the right arm is straight.

Hogan's demonstration of the leading right elbow and the straightening right arm is valuable. Had he also demonstrated the correct direction of the thrust, it would have been even more so.

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Old 06-02-2010, 07:18 PM
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Thanks for the Ben Hogan photos, O.B. Here, Hogan is demonstrating his concept of the right arm action being similar to that of a baseball infielder throwing sidearm to another base. They were the basis of the famed Anthony Ravielli drawings in Five Lessons.

My only objection to the concept is that the 'ball' (Lag Pressure Thrust) in my recommended drill is not thrown toward some distant target. Instead, it is thrown at and through an Aiming Point (typically the ball) on the ground. That Down Plane Thrust (through the Aiming Point) continues until the right arm is straight.

Hogan's demonstration the leading right elbow and the straightening right arm is valuable. Had he also demonstrated the correct direction of the thrust, it would have been even more so.


Yes , your "Dowels and Wedges" video is much more precise, for sure. Precision alignments were Homer's gift to golf after all.

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