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sustainthelag 11-10-2006 01:44 PM

Swing Plane Devices
 
I was considering building a swing plane device similar to what you see in TGM. But before I go to all that effort, would anyone recommend a commercial product they have purchased which they would consider a good value.

lagster 11-10-2006 03:05 PM

Planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sustainthelag
I was considering building a swing plane device similar to what you see in TGM. But before I go to all that effort, would anyone recommend a commercial product they have purchased which they would consider a good value.

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There is one called EXPLANAR... PRICE... not sure.

Jibe 11-10-2006 06:10 PM

Planes
 
The rim on the Explanar is round wich can give you different planes, so there might be a better solution out there?

powerdraw 11-10-2006 10:34 PM

i built the ultimate planeboard but...not much commercially financially wise MY end...the trick is to have the shaft lay flat on the plane as well, not just pointing to it like the Explanar. ibuilt such a thing out of cardboard that makes 4 pieces of a circle that you can put together, one against the other with all the fittings...then i found out how much it would cost to make a prototype...yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shoved into garbage can with move to new house but had a go on alot of swings on it for my own game, but i kept pics and plans, kinda like a cardboard version of homers, adaptable for all planes and length of sticks and carryable and sendable in a 48" max length in the mail to keep costs down. But just know, that you must keep the shaft as well on that freakin plane.

bray 11-10-2006 11:32 PM

I have found the Explanar to be a great aid in my teaching. It retails for $799.99. The pole rolls on the plane, it is a lot like a dowel rod on a plane board. The only thing I find that the Explanar is missing is the sweet spot plane, however it is great for teaching, learning, and working on your flying wedges....if you know how to use the yellow book and what you are looking for.

It should also be noted that the explanar is adjustuble for different planes...shoulder, hands, etc.

I also know a couple other AI's who use this device with success.

Sorting Through the Instructors Textbook.

B-Ray

bray 11-11-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by denny
The Explanar may give a general idea how the plane works on one shiftless plane. Waist high to waist high it is fine.
To date I have not seen anyone do this on a full swing.
Less shift is the goal but humans DO NOT swing on one shiftless plane.
I find that the flash lights drill and the vision track are the best plane training aids.


Denny I agree with you that a shiftless plane is very hard to achieve......I like to use the explanar to teach the flying wedeges. I show my student the wedges on a horizontal surface and then I have them roll them up and down the Explanar. Without the explanar plane shifts do show up, however it is very hard for the student to get excessive right wrist bend on the explanar.

The problem with training aids is that you can find flaws for alot of them......I use training aids for what I need and then set it aside. Having a giant cirle right next to me helps me explain The Golfing Machine conceptualy a lot better.

Sorting Through the Instructors Textbook.

B-Ray

KevCarter 12-01-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bray (Post 35862)
Denny I agree with you that a shiftless plane is very hard to achieve......I like to use the explanar to teach the flying wedeges. I show my student the wedges on a horizontal surface and then I have them roll them up and down the Explanar. Without the explanar plane shifts do show up, however it is very hard for the student to get excessive right wrist bend on the explanar.

The problem with training aids is that you can find flaws for alot of them......I use training aids for what I need and then set it aside. Having a giant cirle right next to me helps me explain The Golfing Machine conceptualy a lot better.

Sorting Through the Instructors Textbook.

B-Ray

Apologies in advance for resurrecting an old thread. I am very intrigued by this swing plane device, similar to one Martin Hall used on the Golf Channel.

http://www.pvcsports.com/store/detai...8&productID=57

Anyone have experience with this? Worthwhile for a teacher? Other, better ideas?

Thanks,
Kevin

Sligo33 12-01-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 58313)
Apologies in advance for resurrecting an old thread. I am very intrigued by this swing plane device, similar to one Martin Hall used on the Golf Channel.

http://www.pvcsports.com/store/detai...8&productID=57

Anyone have experience with this? Worthwhile for a teacher? Other, better ideas?

Thanks,
Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Martin Hall uses the one from pvcsports. He used at the PGA Teaching & Coaching Summit, that i attended in 2006. I use it myself and find it very useful because it allows the club to lie flat on the plane. Other single rail plane devices can let the club travel off plane. Also, it is lightweight and easy to move around, can be stored easily, and is adjustable to accomadate different planes.

You may want to check out mikebender.com. Under training aids Mike has plans for a swing plane board, for $12.95. I have used it at his academy and it is ajustable to allow use of different clubs. I built one using his plans a few years ago for about $125. It weathered (spending 9 months of the year totally exposed to the elements) well for a couple of years, but I finally had to retire it. It is mobile, but being made of would, it is heavy.

Either way it is almost a necessity to have a swing plane board. Personally, I cannot think of a way to give student a clearer image of the swing plane. Hopefully you will find something useful from this post.

KevCarter 12-01-2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sligo33 (Post 58323)
Hi Kevin,

Martin Hall uses the one from pvcsports. He used at the PGA Teaching & Coaching Summit, that i attended in 2006. I use it myself and find it very useful because it allows the club to lie flat on the plane. Other single rail plane devices can let the club travel off plane. Also, it is lightweight and easy to move around, can be stored easily, and is adjustable to accomadate different planes.

You may want to check out mikebender.com. Under training aids Mike has plans for a swing plane board, for $12.95. I have used it at his academy and it is ajustable to allow use of different clubs. I built one using his plans a few years ago for about $125. It weathered (spending 9 months of the year totally exposed to the elements) well for a couple of years, but I finally had to retire it. It is mobile, but being made of would, it is heavy.

Either way it is almost a necessity to have a swing plane board. Personally, I cannot think of a way to give student a clearer image of the swing plane. Hopefully you will find something useful from this post.

Sligo33,

Thank you Sir for the detailed answer. I agree, I HAVE to have a plane board. I will check out Mike's website as well. I appreciate the help!

Kevin

joe curtis 12-01-2008 04:16 PM

hank johnson wrote a book that has the directions for bluilding a plane board in it. get a book and lthe directions. what a deal.


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