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Old 11-06-2008, 10:40 PM
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Vertical Hinging - Shoulder Stroke
I received the Alignment Golf DVD set and admittedly I was mainly interested in the first 2 disks. I finally watched the 3rd DVD on putting without thinking much about it ...... and then I watched it again and tried to absorb what was being said about hinge selection and "knowing" your hinges.

I understand the hinge concept and although I've "considered it" in regards to putting the DVD made me take a more focused look at how I was using it with the flatstick (angled hinging has always been my default motion). This may go against conventional wisdom but.... after working with it some, the vertical hinge feels really good with the putter! I believe Yoda says that it's steering but it seems soooo easy to hit your "start line" with it!!! To me, the image of keeping the FLW moving perpendicular to a wall feels very "simple". The clubface appears to do a reverse-roll but when you understand that it's simply moving perp to a vertical plane it instills plenty of "directional confidence". I can roll the ball plenty far on greens that are average speed using it and let's face it.... putts that we "expect" to make don't require much power at all. (It's the misses inside of 10-15 feet that are hurting me, not the 20+ footers).

Anyone else using a vertical hinge in their putting stroke? Is this what the "Boss of the Moss" employs?

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Old 11-07-2008, 12:08 PM
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I believe that Loren Roberts does use a vertical hinge. The thing to remember is to match the path of the club head i.e. covering the plane line as opposed to tracing it. I prefer angled hinging with a push basic stroke because you do not have to think too much about executing a hinge action. But I also discovered that being "on purpose" is a good thing to i.e. settling your intent to execute this or that!
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:09 PM
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I believe that Loren Roberts does use a vertical hinge. The thing to remember is to match the path of the club head i.e. covering the plane line as opposed to tracing it. I prefer angled hinging with a push basic stroke because you do not have to think too much about executing a hinge action. But I also discovered that being "on purpose" is a good thing to i.e. settling your intent to execute this or that!
Okie,

Intention is a good thing. I haven't made a putt in 5 rounds now and I think I've drifted into too much of a "just-let-it-happen" mode with my stroke and my mind-set. It'll be interesting to see how some "VH with intention" works this weekend.

(I always wondered how Roberts was such a great putter with such a unique-looking stroke. Simply another TGM catalogued pattern. Homer Kelly is so under-rated. Do we truly appreciate his body of work and the effort he put into it?).

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Old 11-07-2008, 02:56 PM
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Homer Kelley is one of my heroes...and I have very few! You cannot cut yourself lose from the law of God...to do so would require the utilization of those same laws (with compensations!) To me golf is a challenge of intergration. Homer Kelley reminded us that seperate identities when understood and properly applied can move mountains! I think TGM gets its cult classic rep because HK had the audicity to suggest "True truth" (thats for you Bucket!) and that which IS! So, it reaffirmed my belief in an orderly universe! If you apply his genius merely to golf then you are dim bulb indeed!
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:09 PM
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HK had the audicity to suggest "True truth" (thats for you Bucket!) and that which IS! So, it reaffirmed my belief in an orderly universe! If you apply his genius merely to golf then you are dim bulb indeed!
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Very well said.

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Old 11-19-2008, 11:48 AM
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Okie,

Intention is a good thing. I haven't made a putt in 5 rounds now and I think I've drifted into too much of a "just-let-it-happen" mode with my stroke and my mind-set. It'll be interesting to see how some "VH with intention" works this weekend.

(I always wondered how Roberts was such a great putter with such a unique-looking stroke. Simply another TGM catalogued pattern. Homer Kelly is so under-rated. Do we truly appreciate his body of work and the effort he put into it?).

CG
Well...... it seems that "steering" can work just fine on the practice green, but not so good when it means something. Couldn't believe how "distracting" it felt trying to use a VH putting action during actual play.... flinch-city!

Back to the drawing board!

CG
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:10 PM
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I personally feel that angled hinging is easier to program because the hinge action matches the plane of motion, hence it has that no roll feel. I also think this is why a push basic arm only stroke is advantageous...using # 1Acc AUTOMATICALLY produces an angled hinge. You gotta like automatic on the greens! I experienced the same thing with vertical hinging. I thought that the benefit of intention i.e. deliberatly selecting a vertical hinge would prove to be some sort of panacea. Obviously if you prefer to cover the base of the plane line you had better be clear on your hinge action intention! I beleive that it is helpful to think in terms of lag pressure, and going to follow through and allow the automatic hinge as a result of the bending and straightening right arm take care of the hinge action. Having said all of that it is difficult for some people to think in terms of doing less!
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