Freeze it at :09 - the right shoulder appears to me to be continuing to drive down-plane at that point and beyond. If so, and he fires the right tricep there as you suggest, he would have to be Switting.
No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.
When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.
Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.
No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.
When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.
Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.
Good post junebug....agreed many have a caricatured view of what hitting "looks like" and how it "works"...as if somehow the hitter don't pivot....I will always remember your quote..."Is it easier to push a cannon ball that is still or one that is rolling?" what alignments do you focus on when determining if a player may be hitting vs. swinging?
No player, other than a 40+ hdcp., has the shoulder stop. When you look at the 3-D models instead of making assumptions in watching 2-D video, there are periods of acceleration and deceleration in every segment. When the arm accelerates off of the shoulder, the arm can cause the shoulder to rapidly decelerate but not stop. Just because something is moving doesn't mean that it's not slowing down.
When a major league pitcher throws a ball, the shoulder doesn't stop when the arm begins to throw. It's a faulty assumption to believe that a Hitter's shoulder can't continue down-plane.
Some of us use 4 barrels. And, Homer said it was possible for Hitting.
I said, "it looks as if the right shoulder appears to be continuing to drive down plane". I did not say or imply, that it stops or doesn't move down plane when Hitting.
When something is moving and continues on at the same rate, then it's probably not slowing down.
I'm proud to say I've never made that assumption!
Yes, but instead of cranking against the right shoulder from the top, the right shoulder drives down plane a bit before firing the right tricep, after which, it is pulled down plane by the hands. So it moves down plane, first driven and then pulled. I don't think Appleby is in the "some of us" club, but others may see it differently.
Good post junebug....agreed many have a caricatured view of what hitting "looks like" and how it "works"...as if somehow the hitter don't pivot....I will always remember your quote..."Is it easier to push a cannon ball that is still or one that is rolling?" what alignments do you focus on when determining if a player may be hitting vs. swinging?
Before the mass confusion that started in the 7th edition, 6-H-0 was "Imperatives". Understanding the possible confusion with the 3 Imperatives, the name should have been changed. But, the information therein is great.
I've been misssin the grease man! How have you been?
Before the mass confusion that started in the 7th edition, 6-H-0 was "Imperatives". Understanding the possible confusion with the 3 Imperatives, the name should have been changed. But, the information therein is great.
I've been misssin the grease man! How have you been?
Greazed! Good! Been unemployed....fixin' to get a new job....where you have to wear pants and stuff....
Greazed! Good! Been unemployed....fixin' to get a new job....where you have to wear pants and stuff....
I love Hitting. I love the smell of Naplam in the morning...
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I said, "it looks as if the right shoulder appears to be continuing to drive down plane". I did not say or imply, that it stops or doesn't move down plane when Hitting.
Usually, when a position like that is taken, one is arguing against it's alternative. So, it seemed to be impied.
Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
When something is moving and continues on at the same rate, then it's probably not slowing down.
I'm proud to say I've never made that assumption!
Even if it was possible for you to measure in 2-D video, how can you assume that "same rate" applies to anything found in a golf stroke?
Maybe I'm stating the obvious Ted, but isn't a lighter club better for a Hitter given solid contact and a solid surface?
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Usually, when a position like that is taken, one is arguing against it's alternative. So, it seemed to be impied.
There are two alternatives, moving and stopping, not just stopping.
Originally Posted by YodasLuke
Even if it was possible for you to measure in 2-D video, how can you assume that "same rate" applies to anything found in a golf stroke?
It's a rear view and the right shoulder is moving down and in slo-mo. The point was that it looks to me like he's steadily driving through impact, which is Swinging physics, not those of 4-barrel Hitting.
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