Do any of you use, have used, or know anyone that employs either of these procedures? There was some brief discussion of 10-6-D on another forum. I haven't heard much about 10-24-F at all.
Mr. Kelley says that 10-6-D... "is undoubtedly the most widely used Basic Plane Angle." pg.155 6th Edition
Lagster,
Great Question.... Those who believe that the clubhead moves straight back and up from the ball, while keeping "IT" in front of the themselves are employing this procedure. This procedure has several interesting components. First a vertical plane of motion for the LEFT Arm Swing Plane Delivery line(4th edition 2-J-3 D) parallel to the intended plane line, Second, an inclined Plane of motion imparted to the clubshaft, by the "Turning Shoulder",... A Two -Plane Swing Mr. Hardy - thanks 2005 PGA Teaching and Coaching Summit. This procedures emphasizesLeft Arm Power, usually is triggered by a wrist throw that produces a sequenced release motion while utilizing a flip release procedure with the left wrist replacing the left shoulder as the center of the clubhead Arc. It is without a doubt the most employed procedure by most juniors and/or neophytes that are trying to emulate "a seems as if" motion.
Plane Angle Basic - Turning Shoulder - 10-6 D
Delivery Line - Left Arm Swing Plane (1979 edition 2-J-3 -D)
Let's "X" up an imaginary Stroke Pattern:
Grip - Type - Interlock
Grip - Type - Strong Single (per Flying Wedges...Very Important!!!)
Stroke- Basic - 10-3 A or 10-3-B
Stroke - Variation 4/2/3
Plane Line - Square-Square (Rotates with Pivot to Hands procedure)
Plane Angle - Basic - Turning Shoulder
Plane Angle - Variation - Good luck!!!!! Need Help with classification!
Fix - Standard
Address - Standard
Hinge action - Dual Horizontal
Pressure Point Combination 4/2/3
Pivot - Varies because of Pivot to Hands procedure
Shoulder Turn - Rotated
Hip Turn - Slide parallel to the delivery line
Hip Action - Delayed
Knee Action - Standard
Foot Action - Standard
Wrist Action - Single (recommended, but jury is still out on that !!!! Flip #3 on plane at top!!!!
Lag Loading - Drag - 10-19-C
Trigger Type - Wrist Throw 10-20-E
Assembly Point - Top
Loading Action - Random Sweep
Delivery Path - Circle
Release - Flip
Nice try Tiger, let's try and shallow it out now. Keep it Wide and Shallow, Now there's a recipe for sucess.... Maybe next year we'll try Narrow and Steep. What do ya think boy's? You gotta follow the "alpha-male" when you're runnin with the pack.
There's a "college try" probably wrong on some components, but oh what the heck... were just "X-ing it up anyway!!!!)
Remember, you gotta keep it in front of you right , so you won't get IT "stuck" behind you. Yeah, Okay,Whatever!!!!
Hope this might contribute in someway shape or force!!!! I mean form.
Lynn, thanks for all your great information and contributions to learning G.O.L.F. I also appreciate how gracious you were to us at Pine Needles. Good Luck with this site....It's awesome!!!!
Lagster,
I felt it was more impressive that Mr. Hardy got up in front of 900 of his peers and had the "cahoonas" to presribe to more than just this is "THE WAY" it's done boys approach to his presentation. For that.... TONS and TONS of respect...He was Preachin to the chior and it was nothing but "lay-ups"!!! Can I get a "Lay-up"? As far as content, I've heard better, but lets give the guy his do...Mr. Flick on the other hand...I love him but...!!! Not his best performance. David Leadbetter, I spoke with for a brief moment...Most Impressive Person I've ever run into in this business...The teaching business is not all about how much you know...It sure helps... but David is really a genuine student of the game... but his ability to conduct an informercial during the Summit is what makes him stand above the rest.
I hope my previous post might have contributed to your questions on 10-6-D. By the way my Tiger comments might have been implied in the wrong context... I am a huge Tiger Fan... I realize that he utilizes and has throughout most of his career ... a Hitting Procedure... but it saddens me greatly to see him mix his components up...Does it look more like Drag or more like Drive now? The imaginary stroke pattern checklist for 10-6-D, 10-20-E, and 10-24 F was not El Tigre, but perhaps Jacque or Big Easy!!! I don't know what or who in the h*!! I'm talking about!
It looks to me like his "One Plane Swing" is a Swinging Procedure, with the right elbow in the Punch Position. Sounds like Angled Hinging for many of his people using this... Azinger. Jake... I'm not sure about the hinge with him. It seems to work well for him, though.
I also like his compatible, and incompatible classifications between his "ONE PLANE SWING," and "TWO PLANERS." The mixing of incompatible components is something that probably many of those guys had not heard about.
Maybe David Duval, should go back to being "STUCK."
Lagster and JT1,
Thanks for your input...Lead is a great guy...I've watched him teach a little in person ...very, very good with people...Makes them feel comfortable within seconds!!! Ya think that important in our business? I've been guilty of accusing David of "Lead-Poison" but I feel it stems from the deadly sin of "ENVY". I pray for forgiveness, because as a person he is "top dawg"!!! Mr. Hardy, don't know him...looking forward to the book in April...I was glad he created a "buzz" amongst the "posse".
Guys,
we need more on 10-6-D... were not done yet!!! Why is this the most widely used or taught basic plane angle... Perhaps Walls and Floors are easier understood than the Roof of your own House!!!
Thanks,
Annikan
Do you think Mr. H. Haney is unknowingly teaching 10-6-D to everyone. Does O'Mera also employ this pattern?
Concerning Mr. Leadbetter... I did take some lessons from him, pre-TGM.
He is very good at making the one feel comfortable, and has a very good way about him when he is one on one. This was at Greenleaf...pre real big $.
The pictures in the back of his book (sequences) look very similar to the ones in TGM.
He seems to prefer a Sweep Load, and a Reverse Plane Shift. I never felt comfortable with the sweep load. He also wanted Double Wrist Action.
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