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Old 01-28-2005, 11:42 AM
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Below Plane Stretching
Question: Extensor Action is a "below plane stretching of the primary lever assembly." Just curious . . . Below what plane? I'm assuming the plane of the clubshaft?

I may be getting too deep here. I've just been stretching the "wobble" out of the left shoulder.

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Old 01-28-2005, 12:35 PM
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The left arm is never on plane. The right forearm and clubshaft should ideally both be on-plane at address position. Put another way, the left arm is "steeper" than the clubshaft at address.

When you "pull" on the left arm using PP3, you are stretching the left arm straight. Since the left arm is "steeper" than the clubshaft at address, you are in essence pulling under the plane - "below plane."
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Old 01-28-2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt
The left arm is never on plane. The right forearm and clubshaft should ideally both be on-plane at address position. Put another way, the left arm is "steeper" than the clubshaft at address.

When you "pull" on the left arm using PP3, you are stretching the left arm straight. Since the left arm is "steeper" than the clubshaft at address, you are in essence pulling under the plane - "below plane."
Thanks! Just so I got it . . . we're talking stretching below the "steeper" plane of the left arm?

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Old 01-28-2005, 02:22 PM
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We're talking about stretching below the clubshaft/right forearm plane (which should be a single plane). We're not stretching below the plane of the left arm - we're stretching the left arm which results in a stretch below the clubshaft/right forearm plane.

The naturally "steeper" angle of the left arm (in relation to the clubshaft/right forearm) results in a "below the clubshaft plane" stretch when you stretch it.

I know that's a wordy answer...so let me know if you still have questions.
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Matt:

I asked this once before...do you personally feel you are stretching 'below' the plane?? Since the left arm is steeper and above the shaft/right forearm plane, would it also be correct to say the strech is pulling the left arm towards the face of the plane....which would require this below plane stretch?

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Ding! I got now. Thanks. So since the left arm is on a steeper plane/angle than the shaft due to #3 and since you are stretching the left arm, then you have to be stretching on an angle below the plane defined by the right forearm and clubshaft (rffw).

Muchas Matt! Always get good stuff from your posts!

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Originally Posted by FL-John
Matt:

I asked this once before...do you personally feel you are stretching 'below' the plane?? Since the left arm is steeper and above the shaft/right forearm plane, would it also be correct to say the strech is pulling the left arm towards the face of the plane....which would require this below plane stretch?

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Personally, I just stretch the left arm through PP3. I don't worry about WHERE I'm stretching it, I just stretch it. I think it has to stretch below plane due to the fact it's steeper than the Right Forearm Flying Wedge, so there's no need to worry about which "direction" you're stretching it. Are you following?

As for the second part of your question - "pulling it towards the face of the plane" - I don't know if that's applicable. Isn't your left hand already touching the plane since both hands are on the grip? So I don't think it's so much about "pulling it towards the plane" as much as it is "pulling it below the plane."
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Ding! I got now. Thanks. So since the left arm is on a steeper plane/angle than the shaft due to #3 and since you are stretching the left arm, then you have to be stretching on an angle below the plane defined by the right forearm and clubshaft (rffw).

Muchas Matt! Always get good stuff from your posts!

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I think (and i'm no expert) that the left arm is off-plane at address not because of extensor action, but rather because of the nature of the "left arm flying wedge". Which is properly created when the club is placed in the heel of the left hand which creates an angle between the clubshaft and the left arm.

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Re: left arm
Originally Posted by Trigolt
I think (and i'm no expert) that the left arm is off-plane at address not because of extensor action, but rather because of the nature of the "left arm flying wedge". Which is properly created when the club is placed in the heel of the left hand which creates an angle between the clubshaft and the left arm.

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You're right, Trigolt. Extensor Action doesn't create the off-plane left arm; the left arm being off-plane is just a consequence of setting up correctly!
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