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Old 11-13-2006, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by golfer24
GREAT POST.

Can you however elaborate on this baseball drill and how it will train the pivot exclusively

Matt
Matt,

To clarify, it isn't a Baseball Drill, its merely a change in the GRIP to a Ten Finger Grip (as soon refer to it as) or Baseball Grip (as The Golfing Machine refers to it as; aka, 10-1-B).

This is a 'shortcut' drill and is not 'designed' to train the Pivot. This drill FORCES your pivot to comply in order to hit good shots.

I call it a 'shortcut' because you may be able to execute good shots with this drill, transfer the feel to a normal swing, have ABSOLUTELY ZERO idea about how the pivot should work and still hit good shots.

As in my post, the only way to hit straight or draw shots with this grip is to:

1) Have the right shoulder coming down plane first as opposed to a round house.
2) Have the clubhead coming from an inside path
3) Have proper hinge action per your loading procedure
4) Finish swivel
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by comdpa
Matt,

To clarify, it isn't a Baseball Drill, its merely a change in the GRIP to a Ten Finger Grip (as soon refer to it as) or Baseball Grip (as The Golfing Machine refers to it as; aka, 10-1-B).

This is a 'shortcut' drill and is not 'designed' to train the Pivot. This drill FORCES your pivot to comply in order to hit good shots.

I call it a 'shortcut' because you may be able to execute good shots with this drill, transfer the feel to a normal swing, have ABSOLUTELY ZERO idea about how the pivot should work and still hit good shots.

As in my post, the only way to hit straight or draw shots with this grip is to:

1) Have the right shoulder coming down plane first as opposed to a round house.
2) Have the clubhead coming from an inside path
3) Have proper hinge action per your loading procedure
4) Finish swivel
I like it!
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:54 PM
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Thank you look forward to trying it.

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Old 11-17-2006, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Toolish
Well, spent some time in the net working on acquired motion and start down waggle.

The right shoulder was going out more than down...when it goes down there is no right arm run out!!

With acquired motion I made sure i did not flatten the shoulder turn out as I have a tendency to do, which leads to some round house action.

Used the start down waggle to get the 'Jeff Hull grunt' move sorted, dropping the shoulder which forces the left hip to bump...as per Tomasello vids.

Not sure how it will all go ball flight wise...but I like the look and feel of impact more now. Just gotta make it a habit!
I dont know if this will help and maybe its blindingly obvious but Ive been working on this too and found you have to co-oridnate the movements of the lower and upper bodies to get this right. I now think of my DS pivot as 2 movements. The first is a leg drive which gets my weight on my left foot, posts the left leg, drops the right shoulder and pulls the arms down shallowing the plane.

The second is a strong rotation of the upper body around that left leg, really feeling like you are going to hit it way left.

It was only when I blended both moves together and started timing them well that I started hitting the ball great. Its legs then shoulders and getting on to the left side. When you get it and you feel the left hip pulling up, the right shoulder going downplane etc etc its fanastic .. all that stuff you read and hear TT and co do .. finally making sense!
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
He thought the Zones were in order 1, 2, 3 for a reason.

Now, we all know that people can make compensations for poor alignments and motions... up to a point. The HANDS can control the Pivot, but the PIVOT must be doing the right things to allow those HANDS, and ARMS to work well.

What do you think?
Well TT thought correctly because Homer put everything in order of importance inside the chapters.

The hands design the pivot is another way to say a hands controlled pivot. The control is over the design and function- not motion. Every good pivot once designed and trained starts from the bottom up. That means the hands do little once the down stroke begins. The hands are the first thing to set in motion on the take-up and the last thing that moves on the down stroke. Once the lane is open – blast off. Let the accumulators unload.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:57 AM
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someone said you can train the pivot in five minutes. in more laymans terms, can you describe how this should be done? thanks
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Split-hands drill
The split-hands drill described above. Jimmy Ballard also uses that one.
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Comdpa, not really a surprise but an excellent post and follow up.

Your post are always well written and easy to understand.

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