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Old 11-08-2005, 03:50 PM
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Learning Rhythm and CF without Over-Acceleration
Hey guys . . .

What is the best way/drills/Feels to allow CF to DO ITS WORK? How do you eliminate Over-Acceleration from your stroke?

Also, how would you advise someone on how to feel Rhythm? Per 2-G "The point to be learned is that the Club, because of the Flat Left Wrist, must always travel at the same RPM as the arms and reproduce the Hinging inherent in the selected Lag Loading procedure (10-19), regardless of Clubhead Extension velocity.

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Hey guys . . .

What is the best way/drills/Feels to allow CF to DO ITS WORK?
Grab a normal sized golf towel, hold the two opposite corners together, and hit a reasonably heavy object (e.g. a half filled golf bag with legs). You learn to use your core to turn back and through. Visualise your arms as ropes, they don't contribute and muscular power whatsoever. Your hands just hold on. Tip: don't use an object where you can topple even with throwaway (e.g. a light crate like Ben sometimes uses). Also place the bag slightly in front of your left foot (i.e. forward ball position).

I have done this drill with a lot of pros, and none of them could topple the golf bag on their first go! They try harder and harder and still can't do it. It should feel effortless when done properly.
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Grab a normal sized golf towel, hold the two opposite corners together, and hit a reasonably heavy object (e.g. a half filled golf bag with legs). You learn to use your core to turn back and through. Visualise your arms as ropes, they don't contribute and muscular power whatsoever. Your hands just hold on. Tip: don't use an object where you can topple even with throwaway (e.g. a light crate like Ben sometimes uses). Also place the bag slightly in front of your left foot (i.e. forward ball position).

I have done this drill with a lot of pros, and none of them could topple the golf bag on their first go! They try harder and harder and still can't do it. It should feel effortless when done properly.
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This is something that's really become clearer to me this season. I feel as though my pivot is a massive rotor and all it does is spin. I take the club to the top with my Wedges assembled and PP3 fully loaded. From there, I feel literally nothing except my right shoulder moving downplane.

Everything else feels like it stays at the top as I start down. The left arm, left wrist, and club are all in one plane (I'm talking about the plane of the left arm flying wedge) and being dragged by my pivot. My right shoulder approaches the ball and my body is opening up to the target, and all of a sudden...wham! The clubhead automatically throws down and out. The harder I load it at the top and the harder I spin downplane the harder it throws out.

I always had trouble taking nice divots and getting enough 'down' when I was Swinging. Hitting was no problem because I could conciously 'hit down.' But I realized this year that if I let the club be "thrown" really hard into PP3 at the top that it would throw out just as hard at the bottom. My pivot spins and everything throws down and out at impact. It's really a cool feeling because it feels like so little work. But the sound of the compression definitely says it's working nicely!
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The harder I load it at the top and the harder I spin downplane the harder it throws out.

But I realized this year that if I let the club be "thrown" really hard into PP3 at the top that it would throw out just as hard at the bottom. My pivot spins and everything throws down and out at impact. It's really a cool feeling because it feels like so little work. But the sound of the compression definitely says it's working nicely!
Matt,

Thanks man! Nice post. Could you expand a little on Loading it hard at the top? At what pace are you "spinning the rotor" at a steady deliberate speed or fast? Also what type of pressure do you have in your grip and arms?

Did you have to focus on keeping your left wrist flat and fully uncocking #2 first before getting to the point where the pivot could actuate everything for you?

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When I say that I load it hard at the top, I mean that I allow the momentum of the club to be thrown into PP3 forcefully. It all starts at takeaway though - when you establish that lagging clubhead dragging away from the ball as you pick the club up with your right forearm. When I start down, I feel like I turn at a rather fast pace, but not too quick. Too quick leads to overacceleration. You have to experiment to find your desired pace. What speed allows you to get the best distance and control? When do you cross the line from hitting it hard to hitting it errant? When you feel out of tempo, when you can't "leave" the clubhead at the top as you start down...that's when you're too fast.

Grip pressure is rather firm. I never liked the idea of gripping it loosely because then it feels like it's going to wobble around during the stroke. On a scale of 1-10, I'm somewhere around 7 or 8. But I'm not all locked and tensed up - I'm just gripping it hard. My arms feel loose to allow for ease of rotation and throwout.

I don't worry about accumulator #2 or my left wrist. Back at thet start of all this I did have to worry about my left wrist but it's been awhile since I've focused on it. As far as acc. #2 goes, I feel that as long as you're not preventing it from throwing out that you'll be fine. Just let it all happen and #2 will throw out when it's good and ready. Don't try to artificially force max trigger delay by "holding on" to your left wristcock. Let it be and it'll throw out at the bottom.
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As for as the book... 6-B-3-O gives good info on this...third paragraph. You must be in sync to maintain the #3 Accumulator Rhythm.
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Hey guys . . .

What is the best way/drills/Feels to allow CF to DO ITS WORK? How do you eliminate Over-Acceleration from your stroke?

Also, how would you advise someone on how to feel Rhythm? Per 2-G "The point to be learned is that the Club, because of the Flat Left Wrist, must always travel at the same RPM as the arms and reproduce the Hinging inherent in the selected Lag Loading procedure (10-19), regardless of Clubhead Extension velocity.

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I would learn to load/create the lag/resistance/heaviness (starting it down with the hands while the club is still moving backward in the middle of the backswing) first and then intend to sustain (keep accelerating/moving) that lag/resistance/heaviness throughout the (down) stroke.

It's difficult to over-accelerate something heavier.
It's easier to feel the rhythm without over-acceleration.
The lag/resistance/heaviness also keeps the (center of gravity of the) club on-plane.

No wonder it's the "secret".
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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So do you feel PP#3 loaded before the shoulder moves down?
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