Hey Teddy ...why did my right elbow hurt like he77?..Oh yeah let's not do that again.....
Last paragraph of 7-19, "Right Arm Swing". My humble opinion is that the Hitting instruction that you were given was a bad idea. It got the patterns crossed. I would never have changed you to Hitting. Swinging is in your genes. You're an awesome Swinger, so why change? As much as I'd like for someone to Hit, I know better than changing someone with so many Swinging tendencies.
I love your pattern, and I think it resembles the awesome footage that you showed me from Mac's prime.
My advice to you: DON'T HIT! DON'T SWING WITH THE RIGHT ARM! SWING!
Last paragraph of 7-19, "Right Arm Swing". My humble opinion is that the Hitting instruction that you were given was a bad idea. It got the patterns crossed. I would never have changed you to Hitting. Swinging is in your genes. You're an awesome Swinger, so why change? As much as I'd like for someone to Hit, I know better than changing someone with so many Swinging tendencies.
I love your pattern, and I think it resembles the awesome footage that you showed me from Mac's prime.
My advice to you: DON'T HIT! DON'T SWING WITH THE RIGHT ARM! SWING!
Ted,
How do you explain the last two paragraphs of Tomasello's July 1991 interview...the master of swinging with the right arm.
GI: What happens to the shots of a player who executes these moves?
Tomasello: The player will immediately hit the ball higher and straighter, and substantially longer. The flight pattern will be dead straight to its apex, with the ball falling a touch left or drawing fractionally as it decends.
GI: How long before a student makes significant improvement?
Tomasello: I can give you documented examples of golfers with no previous record of success who started winning tournaments immediately (on the pro tours Sally Little and Jodie Mudd, I'm sure there are more). But the learning is never-ending. The amount of time and dedication the golfer puts in determines how far he or she can go.
How about Jodie Mudd's comments: "I started working with Tom Tomasello on The Golfing Machine in March 1984. At the time I was in danger of losing my tour card. I finished the year qualifying in 15 of the last 17 events and climbed from 250 to 35 on the money list".
For the record, Tomasello was teaching the swing from July 1991 Golf Illustrated before he went to Australia in 1989. I have Tommy teaching that swing in a 1988 video. Some seem to believe that Croker influenced the swing that Tom talks about in the GI interview.
It's funny, in the Letter series videos, Tomasello says the keys to the golf swing are the right forearm and the right hand.
As a student of Tommy's, I can tell you that Tom used the checklist from 12-3-0 and 12-5-1/2/3 as the basis for his teaching. Tom didn't deviate from TGM.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 07-25-2006 at 11:05 PM.
Looking at the "Hitters Row" video of Ted in the Gallery, it looks like his hands are Turned to the Plane at Release Point (suggesting Standard Wrist Action which goes hand in hand with a Pitch Basic Elbow as Annikan said).
I believe you can't get the amount of delayed release in Ted's swing without doing the above. If he was really Drive Loading, it would look more like 10-19-A #1 (note the photo is with Zero Wrist Action, so in reality there would be a little more Wristcock).
Could Ted be a Four Barrel Swinger?
Ted Float Loads (10-19-B)...then Drives (10-19-A). Throw in a little Downstroke Side Assembly (10-21-E), and you've got it.
With all due respect to the late Tom Tomascello......I would've welcomed a ball striking and shotmaking contest for that matter...In my Prime...and after my Prime...Thanks for the complimnents Teddy Ballgame..I will stick to classic swinging..because for me personally loading the left wrist via the Pivot is 20 - 30 yards different than loading the right arm.....This is one of those things that seperates the wheat from the chaff..If you are right arm swinging are you loading the right arm or the left wrist or both?...It's the Loading that puts the stress on the pressure points and not to mention me ole joints..pardsy....BTW..Teddy Ball game rips it...I'll take the Scramble Team of Yoda, Teddy Ballgame, Myself and Bucket for the entertainment...Game on!!!!
With all due respect to the late Tom Tomascello......I would've welcomed a ball striking and shotmaking contest for that matter...In my Prime...and after my Prime...Thanks for the complimnents Teddy Ballgame..I will stick to classic swinging..because for me personally loading the left wrist via the Pivot is 20 - 30 yards different than loading the right arm.....This is one of those things that seperates the wheat from the chaff..If you are right arm swinging are you loading the right arm or the left wrist or both?...It's the Loading that puts the stress on the pressure points and not to mention me ole joints..pardsy....BTW..Teddy Ball game rips it...I'll take the Scramble Team of Yoda, Teddy Ballgame, Myself and Bucket for the entertainment...Game on!!!!
Ok...I'm booked until next summer...but I'll take on your scramble team with Tomasello students Jodie Mudd, Mark Evershed and let's see another Tomasello student...Lee Deitrick or Coophitter "Cooper Osborne".
How about Pinehurst this time next year...the dual of the hitters, swingers and oh yeah...Tommy's approach.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 07-28-2006 at 10:41 PM.
How do you explain the last two paragraphs of Tomasello's July 1991 interview...the master of swinging with the right arm.
GI: What happens to the shots of a player who executes these moves?
Tomasello: The player will immediately hit the ball higher and straighter, and substantially longer. The flight pattern will be dead straight to its apex, with the ball falling a touch left or drawing fractionally as it decends.
GI: How long before a student makes significant improvement?
Tomasello: I can give you documented examples of golfers with no previous record of success who started winning tournaments immediately (on the pro tours Sally Little and Jodie Mudd, I'm sure there are more). But the learning is never-ending. The amount of time and dedication the golfer puts in determines how far he or she can go.
How about Jodie Mudd's comments: "I started working with Tom Tomasello on The Golfing Machine in March 1984. At the time I was in danger of losing my tour card. I finished the year qualifying in 15 of the last 17 events and climbed from 250 to 35 on the money list".
For the record, Tomasello was teaching the swing from July 1991 Golf Illustrated before he went to Australia in 1989. I have Tommy teaching that swing in a 1988 video. Some seem to believe that Croker influenced the swing that Tom talks about in the GI interview.
It's funny, in the Letter series videos, Tomasello says the keys to the golf swing are the right forearm and the right hand.
As a student of Tommy's, I can tell you that Tom used the checklist from 12-3-0 and 12-5-1/2/3 as the basis for his teaching. Tom didn't deviate from TGM.
DG
Don't shoot the messenger; Homer wrote it in 7-19. If you choose to discount his findings in this paragraph, then state your thesis. Notice that I told Annikan not to Hit either (my personal favorite). So, don't freak out about the Right Arm Swing. It's not the best for everyone, and it's not the only way found in TGM. If you choose to only teach the Right Arm Swing, you're guilty of teaching a methodology. I want him to do what's best for him.
You know that my desire is to adhere strictly to Homer's teachings, unless someone can prove that something doesn't adhere to the geometry and physics that he used as the foundation of his work. This is the reason that I choose to follow Lynn. Additionally, no one cares more about me and my growth as a teacher than Lynn.
I have no doubt that Tomasello was a good teacher. I know that Lynn would not have put up the videos if he thought is was a bunch of garbage. But, Homer gave us an ENTIRE blueprint to which I will adhere.
Anyone would be a better teacher with a little Homer added. The best use a lot of Homer. And I have found in my personal experience in taking lessons that the worst try to reinvent Homer, as egos won't allow one to teach someone else's material. This is no bash on Tomasello, as I never got to meet the man.
If you like the Right Arm Swing, great! Use it to your hearts content. Let me Hit. And, let Annikan Swing. Right Arm Swinging doesn't have to be the only way. There's much more in the book.
P.S. If Bucket can't make the gig, maybe we could borrow Kenny Perry (the Hitter) for Team LBG.
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