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Old 06-29-2007, 11:28 PM
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I tried that charting business but could never figure out what my notes meant when I was looking at a real putt.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:32 PM
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I chart greens -grid them 5X5 and then use a level to find the fall line in each square. Then I roll balls to check my notes. That's one of the reasons I'm called 'Overkill' However, I believe putting is really all about speed and feel.

Wow! That's wild! How long does it take to do that?

Sorry for all the questions but this stuff is great!

Grilled grouper can't be beat . . . make you slap your mama . . . only better eatin' fish is catfish.

I hear the bank tourney is great. You like the golf course too? According to the press the pros love it. Some big ole cribs on that course . . . where does all the money come from?
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:02 AM
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Good stuff, but your giving away all our secrets. By the way people, don't ask this guy about fishing or you will really be in trouble

Keep chiming in, Overkill. Tell us how you do it!
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:31 AM
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Bucket,

Overkill spends endless hours on the course and has never given a bad yardage or club.

Quail Hollow is one of the best. Nice blend of risk/reward and just plain hard holes. Firm sloping greens and lots of trees. A real classic.
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:47 AM
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This advice would be tailored to low handicap golfer. To adjust, I would choose the longest club that can be hit consistently.

Already in another post--Don't go for extra on long fours and short fives. You will be able to reach them from the fairway but not the rough. It's OK to let out the shaft on long fives and short fours.

On a straight hole with constant width of fairway and no water, OB, or pot bunkers, hit the driver. If there is a dogleg, but it is created by traps rather than trees and the carry is manageable, go ahead.

On a tree-lined dogleg, if a good tee shot that flies too straight will go through the fairway hit a three wood. Don't try to sling it around the dogleg (as a rule).

If the fairway pinches, and there is a hazard or deep rough, lay back.

On lay up holes, pick a good spot, measure the yardage so you can adjust to conditions. People often just do the math. Hole is 340. They like 80 yards. Hit it 260. That might not be the best spot based on width of fairway, slope, view of the green. It might be better to lay back to 110. Watch getting too close to the green with a front pin over a trap, esp. if greens are firm. Go ahead and get close with a back pin, esp. if the greens are soft.

Birdies are made with iron shots. While you want to be aggressive, you don't want to give away a hole by taking needless risks from the tee.

It's OK to back off your plan if you don't feel it. Hit three wood instead of driver. Seldom should you change your plan to be more aggressive.

Be aware of changing conditions. If the wind is opposite or it has rained the club will likely change.
Classic course management advice. That is really really neat stuff.
Now do you ever consider hitting a draw into a fairway that slopes from right to left to gain extra roll when the ball caroms off the face of the fairway?
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:51 AM
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One more for Compda: I think that you should stick with a basic ball flight for most tee shots. It's nice to have the abilitiy to work it, but avoid fancy play.

Agreed...I like to think that a straight shot is an accident. I play a soft draw most of the time. Aim right and bend it back.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:13 AM
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Wow!
I chart greens -grid them 5X5 and then use a level to find the fall line in each square. Then I roll balls to check my notes. That's one of the reasons I'm called 'Overkill' However, I believe putting is really all about speed and feel.

WOW! Talk about an info database! You guys are good!
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:53 AM
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Hen,when pacing off yardages,do you check your stride length?
I caddied in an Open qualifier a few years ago and decided to check my stride measurements as there were very few yardage markers on the course, you could end up having to pace off 20 -30 yards.I found my "measuring stride" was pretty good.
What do you do?
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:25 AM
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Hen,when pacing off yardages,do you check your stride length?
I caddied in an Open qualifier a few years ago and decided to check my stride measurements as there were very few yardage markers on the course, you could end up having to pace off 20 -30 yards.I found my "measuring stride" was pretty good.
What do you do?
Great stuff by the way
I worked a first stage open qualifier this year and had to do some of that long pacing. In the practice round, I had lasered the 150 markers (no time to shoot every head) so I used those. I was trusting my long pacing rather than sprinkler heads that I had not checked. I'd say I'm plus or minus a yard at thirty yards (not great)--I started working in the laser era. Some old school guys can pace tee to green with accuracy. Football field would be the place to check your stride if you are that into it. One thing that you really have to pay attention to is when the sprinkler is off-line of your shot. The best way to learn about that is with the laser.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:28 AM
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Classic course management advice. That is really really neat stuff.
Now do you ever consider hitting a draw into a fairway that slopes from right to left to gain extra roll when the ball caroms off the face of the fairway?
Comdpa,

I would consider any shot that gives an advantage. I like aggression, but you have to weigh the risks.
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