How do we connect the dots on the red statements???
10-2-G TRIPLE OF QUADRUPLE When the above Grip Types are MODIFIED by Rotating the Hands so that either or both Wirsts cannot Cock On Plane without also Bending, Feel loses its geometric basis. Also the natural Wrist motions conflict. A bit of Left Wrist Turn properly becomes exactly the same amount of Double Wristcock to keep the Clubshaft On Plane and to maintain Impact Wrist Position. Except with a “True” Swing (6-B-3-0) where Centrifugal Force will produce the “geometric” Flat Left Wrist when there is actually a “visual” Bent Left Wrist. That is, the Clubshaft and the Left Arm are in a straight line per 6-B-3-0 and 2-K regardless of the Left Wrist Position. These procedures may be either “Weak” or “Strong” but either or both Wrist are Double Cocked per 10-18-B.
So does that work with this???
10-2-D STRONG DOUBLE ACTION T/V/A Now the Right Wrist is Vertical and the Left Wrist is Turned to the top of the Clubshaft so that the Left Wristcocking motion will be on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. The #3 Pressure Point and the left thumb are also on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. Double Action – same as 10-2-C.
Very compatible with the Cut Shot procedures. Any Left Wrist Bend at Impact Fix should be maintained throughout the Stroke.
This Grip Type features maximum Wristcocking action and strong support for both Acceleration and Impact loads. The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On-Plane – no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.
To me this produces two different alignments??? The 10-2-B prescribed motion produces a visual flat left wrist with the clubface "shut" and the sweet spot and shaft out of line and out of line with the left arm. The 10-2-G prescibed cocking and bend produces a geometrically flat left wrist with the left arm club shaft and sweet spot in line.
How do we connect the dots on the red statements???
10-2-G TRIPLE OF QUADRUPLE When the above Grip Types are MODIFIED by Rotating the Hands so that either or both Wirsts cannot Cock On Plane without also Bending, Feel loses its geometric basis. Also the natural Wrist motions conflict. A bit of Left Wrist Turn properly becomes exactly the same amount of Double Wristcock to keep the Clubshaft On Plane and to maintain Impact Wrist Position. Except with a “True” Swing (6-B-3-0) where Centrifugal Force will produce the “geometric” Flat Left Wrist when there is actually a “visual” Bent Left Wrist. That is, the Clubshaft and the Left Arm are in a straight line per 6-B-3-0 and 2-K regardless of the Left Wrist Position. These procedures may be either “Weak” or “Strong” but either or both Wrist are Double Cocked per 10-18-B.
So does that work with this???
10-2-D STRONG DOUBLE ACTION T/V/A Now the Right Wrist is Vertical and the Left Wrist is Turned to the top of the Clubshaft so that the Left Wristcocking motion will be on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. The #3 Pressure Point and the left thumb are also on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. Double Action – same as 10-2-C.
Very compatible with the Cut Shot procedures. Any Left Wrist Bend at Impact Fix should be maintained throughout the Stroke.
This Grip Type features maximum Wristcocking action and strong support for both Acceleration and Impact loads. The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On-Plane – no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.
To me this produces two different alignments??? The 10-2-B prescribed motion produces a visual flat left wrist with the clubface "shut" and the sweet spot and shaft out of line and out of line with the left arm. The 10-2-G prescibed cocking and bend produces a geometrically flat left wrist with the left arm club shaft and sweet spot in line.
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10-2-D would not mean the clubface is shut-these are impact fix conditions so if you rotate the grip of the club without moving the hands ,i believe you could have any clubface arrangement you want.(or did you really mean 10-2-B.I thought this was a typo in your last paragraph).
I'm trying to figure out how the alignments would differ-would they if you kept the visual bend in the left wrist in 10-2-G?
10-2-D would not mean the clubface is shut-these are impact fix conditions so if you rotate the grip of the club without moving the hands ,i believe you could have any clubface arrangement you want.(or did you really mean 10-2-B.I thought this was a typo in your last paragraph).
I'm trying to figure out how the alignments would differ-would they if you kept the visual bend in the left wrist in 10-2-G?
No I for sure meant 10-2-D . . . try the prescribed motion in 10-2-D . . . if you Cock in the line of the Right Wrist Bend your wrist is turned and VISUALLY Flat. But if you do the motion in 10-2-G you are Cocked Turned and Bent at Top.
No I for sure meant 10-2-D . . . try the prescribed motion in 10-2-D . . . if you Cock in the line of the Right Wrist Bend your wrist is turned and VISUALLY Flat. But if you do the motion in 10-2-G you are Cocked Turned and Bent at Top.
Still not 100% on the question bucket but my take on this is:
If you use 10-2-G then youre gonna have a bent LW and so you had better leave it to centrifugal force (a true swing) to bring clubface into alignment and not try to manipulate a flat left wrist. As mentioned in 10-18-B any double cocking of the LW destroys the Left Arm Flying Wedge.
By "Geometric" flat left wrist when there is actually a "visual" bent left wrist he means the left wrist isnt actually flat its bent but the clubface and primary lever assembly is aligned at impact as if you had the recommended FLW due to CF.
With 10-2-D you have set your grip at impact fix with the left wrist turned which can cause left wrist bend. The amount of bend should remain otherwise if you manipulate a FLW it will close the club face. Also beware of using too much acc #3/roll or horizontal hinging with this grip or you'll hook it off the planet.
Most people in the UK have been told to have this really strong left hand grip at least 3 knuckles showing and they wonder why they cant get a FLW at the top. Teach them to have a flat left wrist at impact and they soon get the hooks. 10-2-B is the answer unless you want special types of shots.
Mmmmmmm...I would disagree Bucket
It would be bent-visually -surely?
Try this . . . hold your left hand out infront of you fingers extended and wrist vertical to the ground . . . now Turn it about 45 degrees and grip the club. It's still Flat just Turned now.
Still not 100% on the question bucket but my take on this is:
If you use 10-2-G then youre gonna have a bent LW and so you had better leave it to centrifugal force (a true swing) to bring clubface into alignment and not try to manipulate a flat left wrist. As mentioned in 10-18-B any double cocking of the LW destroys the Left Arm Flying Wedge.
By "Geometric" flat left wrist when there is actually a "visual" bent left wrist he means the left wrist isnt actually flat its bent but the clubface and primary lever assembly is aligned at impact as if you had the recommended FLW due to CF.
With 10-2-D you have set your grip at impact fix with the left wrist turned which can cause left wrist bend. The amount of bend should remain otherwise if you manipulate a FLW it will close the club face. Also beware of using too much acc #3/roll or horizontal hinging with this grip or you'll hook it off the planet.
Most people in the UK have been told to have this really strong left hand grip at least 3 knuckles showing and they wonder why they cant get a FLW at the top. Teach them to have a flat left wrist at impact and they soon get the hooks. 10-2-B is the answer unless you want special types of shots.
I contacted the "home office" and got the same message. If you double cock then you must leave it up to CF. I'm not sure if I understand why . . .
I think that the Left Arm Flying Wedge is complied with IF you Bend and Cock because the Geometric basis of Flat is the relationship with the clubshaft and the left arm. Per 6-B-3-0-1 . . .
the entire Left Arm, the Clubshaft and the back of the Left Hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane
AND
Then, ideally, the Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Level (4-A-1, 4-B-1).
So Geometrically speaking Bent and Cocked complies with both of these axioms . . . Turned Flat and Cocked . . . Does not . . . so which'un works. You say that if you Cock and Bend you gotta leave it up to CF . . . but if you are Flat Turned and Cocked can you leave it up to CF too? Or does that spell L-E-F-T??? And what are we leaving up to CF clubface?
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