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Old 03-08-2005, 01:18 PM
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Approach to Building an Effective GOLF stroke....
12 handicap....surely suffer from most of the basics...Where do we start?

What approach should I take in terms of "building from the ground up"?

What do I focus on first, second, third, etc? Pivot, hands, set-up?

Or if thats too much to ask, what 4 areas should I "get under my belt" before tackling other areas? How should I go about it?

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Old 03-08-2005, 01:26 PM
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Welcome aboard, 300drive, and congrats on your first post. There is plenty of qualified help around, and I'm sure you'll be hearing from some of the guys shortly. You're going to love this place!
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Old 03-08-2005, 01:58 PM
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Re: Approach to Building an Effective GOLF stroke....
Originally Posted by 300Drive
12 handicap....surely suffer from most of the basics...Where do we start?

What approach should I take in terms of "building from the ground up"?

What do I focus on first, second, third, etc? Pivot, hands, set-up?

Or if thats too much to ask, what 4 areas should I "get under my belt" before tackling other areas? How should I go about it?

Thanks
This might be a bit painful in terms of time, but it seems to me that Homer gave us a three step approach to developing a G.O.L.F. stroke

12-5-1 Basic Motion
12-5-2 Acquired Motion
12-5-3 Total Motion

Initially before jumping in a review of
a. Swing Geometry (Plane Line, etc)
b. 12-1-0 & 12-2-0 (components)

Of course to accomplish each of those steps requires digging out the drills from the book as well as getting some help from the forum experts.

For example the Grip, which most golfers seem to think is easy to master usually, IMO has proven to be the root cause to a great number of swing faults. Today, we just had a post regarding PP#1 and how a hitter should position it and use it.

As each step is done, I would suggest that learning the Flying Wedges, Hinges occur as the components appear.

I know that probably for every 3 balls I hit with the three days with Yoda, at least one was from the Basic Motion. Wedges, Hinges, Right Forearm Tracing, etc. Had one heck of a lot of balls less than 50 yds out. But the accuracy of alignments, the power of the alignments sure came out as the balls began to land in one area out about the same distance. It would have been a piece of cake to shag those vs when I first started.

Granted what I have just outlined is my opinion and it is not a short term undertaking.

I would suggest that having an AI either in person or via some means. Having a qualified trained eye being able to review your progress is priceless. In fact I would find an AI (Yoda would be my 1st choice, acutally any of those at MGC would be good) and have them put together a 12 week plan. Then have periodic reviews and lessons to move to the next stage.

You know, IMO, this sounds like a great way to get into the Internet Lessons for Overhauls.

Can't remember the poster but we have one here who uses a mirror. maybe he can share how he uses it. I have been research this topic for a while. It is one thing to look to see if the wrist is flat or the club is in this position, but what I am trying to identify are reference lines and check points that can be applied to the mirror so with multiple mirrors you can keep you head in place and see the face on as well as down the line.

I could ramble on but I have probably taken up more space than I should have.
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Old 03-08-2005, 08:20 PM
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Re: Approach to Building an Effective GOLF stroke....
Originally Posted by 300Drive
12 handicap....surely suffer from most of the basics...Where do we start?

What approach should I take in terms of "building from the ground up"?

What do I focus on first, second, third, etc? Pivot, hands, set-up?

Or if thats too much to ask, what 4 areas should I "get under my belt" before tackling other areas? How should I go about it?

Thanks
With a 12 handicap, you are obviously doing some things well. Before you tear apart what you have put together up to this point, it could be helpful to find an Authorized Instructor in your area to help you map out your stroke within the context of the 24 components and variations.

After that assesment, your AI can advise you regarding a path of learning that will get you where you want to go. This path typically will start with

-the flat left wrist
-a straight plane line
-a clubhead lag pressure point

and

-a steady head
-balance
-rhythm

because improvement in these areas improve your stroke immediately and permanently.

Another poster wisely offered the Basic, Aquired, and Total Motion as a path to learn. No doubt, that is great advice, too.

You can save a lot of time, money, aggravation, etc. by pursuing a "guided struggle rather than a blind struggle" ( Homer Kelly) under the guidance of a qualified teacher.

Wishing you great success,
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:10 AM
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could someone direct me to the grip for hitters, i searched but couldn't find it.

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Old 03-09-2005, 10:47 AM
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could someone direct me to the grip for hitters, i searched but couldn't find it.

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If you are asking for a reference in the TGM Book for Grip Type, it would be 10-2-B, Strong Single Action, is what is recommended. By recommended I mean based on the stroke pattern Homer defined in 12-1-0. A good review of 10-2-0 is also IMO a good idea. Getting PP#1 and PP#3 on the Aft of the shaft is, well it makes the golf stroke. Importance of PP#1 location, search for post of recent which discusses PP#1 and hitting.

Regarding the commone grips, overlapping, interlocked, etc, 10-1-A, overlapping is recommended per 12-1-0,

Also I would note, the idea of the left hand, thumb and index finger having no spacing has been discussed here on this forum. I believe the general consenus is that the idea of no space is not optiminal in all cases.

Another side note, the overlapping, often thought to be the little finger of the right hand resting between the index and middle finger of the left hand may not be ideal or correct for the golfer. Having the little finger rest on top of the left index may provide a better grip.

For the last two items, you can search here and find the posts where these have been discussed.
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