I recently was a Pace of Play official at Doral for the pro-am. I walked the entire round with Scott Hoch. He struck the ball very well.
He used a very narrow stance on every shot... maybe hip width with a driver... and had both feet perpendicular... no flare.
Later I watched a few other guys on this. Steve Elkington had his left foot flared out about 40 to 45 degrees with his driver. There were all kinds of variations on this.
I know this can influence Hip Turn and Hip Action.
Foot Flare indeed not only influences the range of motion of the hips.... Left Foot turned out ...restricted in the backstroke....freer in the Follow-Through.....It also affects the amount of 2nd Axis Tilt (Side Bend....In case you're wondering 1st Axis Tilt is a Forward Bend) through the Downstroke and Follow-Through. The more the foot flare the less 2nd Tilt and a perhaps a lower launch angle ....The less foot flare with a wider stance the more 2nd Axis Tilt with a higher overtaking rate of the components may produce a higher launch angle.....Foot Flare affects the entire machine!!!! Elkington sets-up this way with an intended ball flight in mind!!!!
I know this because one of my dearest friends is currently working with Steve Elkington and Greg Norman.
I can see clearly now...The rain is gone!!! or is it the FOG is lifting!!!!
Foot Flare indeed not only influences the range of motion of the hips.... Left Foot turned out ...restricted in the backstroke....freer in the Follow-Through.....It also affects the amount of 2nd Axis Tilt (Side Bend....In case you're wondering 1st Axis Tilt is a Forward Bend) through the Downstroke and Follow-Through. The more the foot flare the less 2nd Tilt and a perhaps a lower launch angle ....The less foot flare with a wider stance the more 2nd Axis Tilt with a higher overtaking rate of the components may produce a higher launch angle.....Foot Flare affects the entire machine!!!! Elkington sets-up this way with an intended ball flight in mind!!!!
I know this because one of my dearest friends is currently working with Steve Elkington and Greg Norman.
I can see clearly now...The rain is gone!!! or is it the FOG is lifting!!!!
Annikan
I did some filming of my swing today. I was working on a Hogan-like set up with the right foot pulled back and shoulders square. I did not flare my left foot hardly at all. I noticed on the film that having the right foot back allows for a much bigger turn and I think it's causing me to sway off the ball a bit. I was thinking of flaring the left foot as the cure, but I certainly don't want a lower launch angle. I like the way the ball is leaving my driver right now - and I have no problems getting through the ball. It's just the sway I'm concerned about....
In The Golfing Machine, there is only 1 Axis Tilt.
Side bend.
The other is called Waist Bend.
That two axis tilt thing is a Mac deal.
Thanks for clearing that up, Brian. Even many Authorized Instructors think that 'secondary axis tilt' is a TGM concept. It is not, and now we know its origin.
I don't want to argue the point but clarify 2-H where it says...(3rd paragraph)...."On Plane" Right Shoulder Motion is possible only by tilting its axis--the spine. See 7-14....so lets go to 7-14 where it says....The Hip Turn as a Stroke Component is strictly the product of the Knee Bend and the Waist Bend. Not otherwise could the weight be shifted and the Shoulder Turn Axis be tilted with moving the head.".....hmmm is that where O'grady came up with the 2nd axis tilt???
For my understanding what is the definition of these two terms?
Steve
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Originally posted by brianmanzella:
In The Golfing Machine, there is only 1 Axis Tilt.
Side bend.
The other is called Waist Bend.
That two axis tilt thing is a Mac deal.
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Posted by Yoda:
Thanks for clearing that up, Brian. Even many Authorized Instructors think that 'secondary axis tilt' is a TGM concept. It is not, and now we know its origin.
O.K. so I got out the book and tried looking up the terms. Let me see if I got this right.
Side bend is a product of maintaining the right knee impact fix position, maintaining a steady head so the shoulders are rotating around a fixed axis, and starting the downswing with a hip shift/turn which tilts the spine.
This allows the right shoulder to turn on plane. Without the hip turn the right shoulder would turn over the delivery line not down it and cause throw out.
Is that close?
Steve
In The Golfing Machine, there is only 1 Axis Tilt.
Side bend.
The other is called Waist Bend.
That two axis tilt thing is a Mac deal.
That is good to know, now I can stop looking through all my notes on TGM of where this term is. Thought maybe it was one those items to be forth coming in version 7 or from Homer's notes.
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