I would be interested to know how tall you are and if you can measure the distance of your left wrist to the floor??
Let me know if you can do this and get back to me with the numbers.
Thanks in advance for getting these measurements, and I'm glad to hear you had some good practice today. I will add more to this thread in terms of the takeaway tomorrow in an effort to help those interested.
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B-Ray
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I would be interested to know how tall you are and if you can measure the distance of your left wrist to the floor??
Let me know if you can do this and get back to me with the numbers.
Thanks in advance for getting these measurements, and I'm glad to hear you had some good practice today. I will add more to this thread in terms of the takeaway tomorrow in an effort to help those interested.
Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.
B-Ray
35inch from wrist to floor hands by my side, and in my address position 29inch from the bottom of the wrist to the floor. I am 5 foot 10 1/2.
I bent the clubs 6 flat to achieve a point I wanted to make in a book I wrote about Hogan's swing. I knew I was taller than Hogan and new I could bend them back the other way as needed but, I started hitting it really good and as long as I held my angle there was no toe dig.. Like every golfer does they want to progress and when I started working on some of the TGM stuff last week I found I needed to adjust. The adjust point with lie tape was 3 flat.
I will note one other thing todays clubs are way to upright taking the roundness out of the swing, more hitting now... The clubs are all weighted to get the ball in the air, and self correct mistakes. Now, the funny part about this is the new clubs don't help you if you are hitting it well, they do if your off but not to the extent of what most think. The other thing is the sweet spot has not changed it's still in the middle and the same size, the ball does not know if you are hitting it with a blade or a cavity back. I did a little study awhile back and found that since 1995 that more people shank they ball now more than ever, and there are more people in the game today as well. The New irons are kinda helping and killing the game. Tiger said that he hits his old wood every once in awhile and hits it the same distance as his metal wood, give or take a few yards.. But the metal wood carries about 40 yards further with less roll, and you are less likley to have a miss hit on the toe which is a distance killer in wood drivers. Just food for thought..!
Thanks,
BurleyGolf-
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Had the Houston Open Qualifier yesterday, I have been working so hard on the adjustments to my new swing. I started not to play yesterday since it has only been 3 days since I found the TGM setup and right arm takeaway, but I said what the hell. I went out and shot 79 had a double on #1 and # 5, I booged #9, #15, and #18.... No birdies is what got me.. I hit the ball great, had 7 shots that I would call bad and 1 of them was a putt, and 1 was a chip, the other 5 were 2 bad drives, and 1 bad 3 wood, and 2 bad iron shots. I had not penailty strokes and missed 4 fairways and hit 13 greens. If you look at the stats I think it was not that bad. I have some work still to do but getting better. #9 and #18 I tried to force birdy, this is something I thought was needed and I guess trying to hard lead to boogy on both of them,,"Lesson Learned"!
The bad drivers and 3 wood i hit, topped them off the dee box about 60 yards..LOL To steep and trying to hit it to hard!
The Score 79 does not reflect the way I played, I just needed more birdies and more tournamnet confidence. Have to shake off the rust.
Had the Houston Open Qualifier yesterday, I have been working so hard on the adjustments to my new swing. I started not to play yesterday since it has only been 3 days since I found the TGM setup and right arm takeaway, but I said what the hell. I went out and shot 79 had a double on #1 and # 5, I booged #9, #15, and #18.... No birdies is what got me.. I hit the ball great, had 7 shots that I would call bad and 1 of them was a putt, and 1 was a chip, the other 5 were 2 bad drives, and 1 bad 3 wood, and 2 bad iron shots. I had not penailty strokes and missed 4 fairways and hit 13 greens. If you look at the stats I think it was not that bad. I have some work still to do but getting better. #9 and #18 I tried to force birdy, this is something I thought was needed and I guess trying to hard lead to boogy on both of them,,"Lesson Learned"!
The bad drivers and 3 wood i hit, topped them off the dee box about 60 yards..LOL To steep and trying to hit it to hard!
The Score 79 does not reflect the way I played, I just needed more birdies and more tournamnet confidence. Have to shake off the rust.
Thanks,
BurleyGolf-
Hi Pro, great to see you taking an interest in the GOOD stuff!!!
Kevin
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Hi Pro, great to see you taking an interest in the GOOD stuff!!!
Kevin
I'm loving me some Lynn Blake, and thats is in every bit of a manly/brute golf way...Lol I think Lynn has the in site and understanding on TGM, and the much bigger scope of the future of golf swings teachings. As some may know I am very knowledgeable about the golf swing and not allot impresses me, and I have heard most of it before. I talked to Lynn last week and he was every bit as kind as I thought he would have been. My ideas are very close to TGM and after studying some, it was a no-brainier to find out more. Every good teacher has his own idea's, but logically speaking Homer gave all the patterns and basically you just have to choose which one to use and what elements goes with it... (Hitter, Swinger, Switter, post aiming point, pre aiming point, hands pivot, pivot hands, right side back, left side open..ect,ect..) The point is I like what LB brings to the table and it goes good with my steak and mash potato's.
I'm loving me some Lynn Blake, and thats is in every bit of a manly/brute golf way...Lol I think Lynn has the in site and understanding on TGM, and the much bigger scope of the future of golf swings teachings. As some may know I am very knowledgeable about the golf swing and not allot impresses me, and I have heard most of it before. I talked to Lynn last week and he was every bit as kind as I thought he would have been. My ideas are very close to TGM and after studying some, it was a no-brainier to find out more. Every good teacher has his own idea's, but logically speaking Homer gave all the patterns and basically you just have to choose which one to use and what elements goes with it... (Hitter, Swinger, Switter, post aiming point, pre aiming point, hands pivot, pivot hands, right side back, left side open..ect,ect..) The point is I like what LB brings to the table and it goes good with my steak and mash potato's.
Thanks,
BurleyGolf-
I agree Pro, it will be fun to see where you take it. I am a big fan of Brian Gay's swing, be sure you pick up that video lesson. I think it embodies Mr. Blake's principles at the highest level on which you teach. It will be fun to see if you go in that direction as well...
Kevin
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I agree Pro, it will be fun to see where you take it. I am a big fan of Brian Gay's swing, be sure you pick up that video lesson. I think it embodies Mr. Blake's principles at the highest level on which you teach. It will be fun to see if you go in that direction as well...
Kevin
KC-
You know my thoughts from the other forum and you liked them and a lot of the other TGM guys liked them, it was just slicefixers followers who did not, and nothing against old slice he is a nice guy. The more information I get on TGM the easier the swinging of the club becomes it seems. I fully changed my swing Tuesday evening after talking with Jeff about the right arm takeaway, and keeping the right butt and shoulder back as long as possible. Then I go out in a PGA Tour Qualifier and hit 13 greens and 10 fairways. Tell me that TGM is wrong...and I will laugh! Just keep putting it together, and I think that the rest will fit in...
Just wanted to let some of you see the progress I am making, I am hitting a 9iron in the first vid, and a 5 iron in the second vid. You will be able to see the changes I have made, and the ones I am making...
35inch from wrist to floor hands by my side, and in my address position 29inch from the bottom of the wrist to the floor. I am 5 foot 10 1/2.
I bent the clubs 6 flat to achieve a point I wanted to make in a book I wrote about Hogan's swing. I knew I was taller than Hogan and new I could bend them back the other way as needed but, I started hitting it really good and as long as I held my angle there was no toe dig.. Like every golfer does they want to progress and when I started working on some of the TGM stuff last week I found I needed to adjust. The adjust point with lie tape was 3 flat.
BurleyGolf,
Thanks for getting those measurements to me. Also I am glad to hear you are making progress with TGM and feeling confidence. I apologize for the delay in reponding to your posts I have been very busy teaching and playing golf myself, but today I've found a rainy day in the golf shop to respond.
In regards to your measurements.....Ping would reccommend a 62.25 lie angle on your six iron based on your static measurements. This is probrably considerably upright from your current set.....by the way what are you playing??
Now I am not saying that Ping is always right....but I have done hundreds of fittings over the last two years and I find Ping's static fit (standing measurements) to be with in two degrees of the dynamic fit (actually hitting balls off lie board) 95% of the time.
Also you said your clubs worked fine when you held the angle.
That angle in the wrist is Power Accumulater #2 in The Golfing Machine.
It is the angle formed between your club and left arm by the left wrist.
Power Accumulator's are out of line conditions of the power package....releasing them to inline releases their stored potential.
This should happen in the golf swing.
Refer to 6-B-0 and 6-B-2-0.
Now you don't want to release Power Accumulator #2 too early because that is casting, but post impact PA#2 should achieve an in line condition. I believe your lie angle will get more upright as you do this, and your ball striking will get even better.
Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.
B-Ray
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Catch ya on the lesson tee.
I'd have to agree with BRay. In watching the Youtube pre-shot, it looks as though you're trying to keep a Cocked Left Wrist through Impact. The Left Wrist should be in the process of Uncocking. Centrifugal force wants the club to reach an in-line condition, and the attempt to keep the wrist Cocked is in direct opposition to that force. Also, in the pre-shot, it looks like there's no attempt to trace a Straight Plane Line. It looks to me like you're trying to trace a circle.
I would at least try to start with a Level Left Wrist. Then, I would go to Follow Through and see if you can get the Left Wrist Uncocked, when Tracing a Straight Plane Line.
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