My Weight moves strongly to the Left Side -- assuming its not there already, e.g., in the Short Strokes -- while my Right Hip remains in its Turned condition. This movement (the Hip Shift that is itself the Weight Shift) Loads the Lag Pressure Point, increases the Downstroke Shoulder Turn Lag (Maximum Trigger Delay of the #4 Accumulator) and initates the Pull of the Arms Downplane.
A sharp Backstroke Turn, a Downstroke Hip Slide only (before the Arm Motion begins) encourages "On Plane" Pivot alignments. So it's -- Turn, Slide, Swing. [Bold emphasis is in the original text.]
-- The Golfing Machine (Third Edition / 3-F-5)
this is a very enlightening statement
while my Right Hip remains in its Turned condition
Thanks Lynn, never thought about the Pivot putting the Right Elbow on Plane before. That would be a very "late hit" with either Pitch or Punch elbow, delayed Release, small pulley wheel, lots of "right arm" left deal, I guess. A firing of #1 prior to the Right Elbow being on Plane being an earlier Release, bigger pulley wheel procedure. "On Plane" for the Right Elbow is late, I think. Isnt it?
O.B. (or anyone)
Last night at the range I wanted to really feel the PP#3 tracing the plane line and getting the hands forward using the aiming point but it lead to shanks.
I changed up the swing thought to something I had read here about JB Holmes and his right elbow being ahead of the ball at impact. I began to consciously think of having the right elbow almost lead the swinging motion pushing it as far forward as possible, pitch elbow as I understand it.
I had to make sure I did not goat hump so I had room for the elbow.
Results were crazy good. It had an impact on my face into impact as all of a sudden the ball was going super high and I was hitting slight fades (have not done that in 3 years). I have never hit the driver as far as the past 3 range sessions with the improvements with RFT and this change.
Results can often be short term good and I am questioning if this elbow move is a proper procedure pure TGM?
Yes TGM is all over the Right Elbow position at Release, the Delayed Release, the power it provides, how you need to clear a path for the Right Elbow so it can get all the way there to Pitch or Punch even etc, etc. For sure. Its really interesting to me that your shanks went away too. I tend to shank when I get too "army" and have found I can cure them with a proper 6-M-1 downswing sequence, swinging from the feet so to speak. Shanks with no sense of Lag Pressure or even total "downswing blackout" vs proper sequencing and lag and drag in all its forms. Gmbtempe, Im wondering if in trying to get your Right Elbow all the way to Pitch, you lit a fire under your Pivot? Which got you 6-M-1 ing and back on track.
Which relates in a round about way to the topic at hand the Downswing Waggles (although I think the term is more correctly Startdown Waggles). In an actual golf swing the proper sequence would go feet, knees, hips before the shoulders have their turn taking the arms and hands down. In transition prior to startdown, for full power swings for me anyways the Hips slide with a delayed turn 10-14-B to shift the weight left prior to the hip turn of 6-M-1 which precedes the Right Shoulders move towards the ball 10-13-A. And so in a Downswing Waggle you must either incorporate the Hip Slide or start with your weight already left, then turn the Hips. I can tend to do Downswing Waggle with just a Right Shoulder move which is not quite right, Im thinking. You wouldnt want to practice an incorrect sequence or a shorten radius see 6-M-1. How do you guys do the waggles?
(By way of trying to invigorate this oh so important thread ,Im now going to ask a totally gratuitous question about Ben Hogan which is always a good lost leader, maybe Ill throw the "secret" around too)
In the Shells Wonderful World of Golf demo Ben Hogan maintained that the movement of the lower body was the most important thing in the swing for him. He then went on to demonstrate what he meant with something pretty darn close to a Downswing Waggle or Startdown Waggle or what ever. Now VJ Trolio thinks he left out the Slide with the Delayed Turn (his secret) which we just discussed but otherwise is he talking to us about Startdown, 6-M-1, 6-K, Lag Loading etc? Isnt he? Homers Startdown Waggle, Harvey Penicks Magic Move, Hogan's "most important thing in the golf swing"?
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