LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - HAND Path... the key to effortLESS club head speed. Thread: HAND Path... the key to effortLESS club head speed. View Single Post #8 07-20-2009, 02:20 PM no_mind_golfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 118 Yes I agree wholeheartedly Originally Posted by BerntR NMG, Thanks for the link. Very interesting indeed! You're welcome but its Prof Nesbit that deserves all the kudos/thanks. I already emailed him a letter of encourgement knowing that his work would likey be "beyond comprehenssion" of the masses (as exhibited by a few of the posts above). Originally Posted by BerntR NMG, I've read through the whole paper. I didn't digest all of it; it is a hard read. But I got a few things out of it. From a user perspective, the optimized hub path is very interesting. Question 1: How to get the hands closer to origo at 9 o'clock? Potential answer: By aggressive weight shift. And more shoulder rotation and delay the extencior action. Question 2: How to achieve a shorter swing radius / more rotation through impact? (and more thrust?) Potential answer: A stance and impact where the shoulder has rotated further than befare, later release. We need more of this stuff. The fact that a lot of youngsters appear and seemingly hit the ball a mile with very slim bodies indicates that the current SOTA has headroom with regards to the most efficiant stroke possible. I agree completely ... we need more of this stuff... basic research on things that benefit the masses as apposed to the few. As a US citizen and tax-payer I am happy to see a pittance of my tax monies go towards these sorts of things (which is in contrast to billions for banksters and the military industrial congressional complex). Quote: “Leadership is unlocking people's potential to become better.” Bill Bradley In this life there are leaders and there are followers. There will be the leaders among us that recognize the potential of what is being said here. Think about ... What Nesbit's research is saying is that a scratch golfer can go from hitting his drives 280 yards to 292 and use LESS energy in process (16% less energy!). It also assumes that linear force is his limiting factor. What if linear force is not this scratch golfer's limiting factor? What if the amount of linear force measured during his initial testing could be even greater? That would imply that it is quite possible that MORE... potentially much more than 4% CHS improvement can be had. Like the Nasa space program... basic research spawns spin-offs (for those who can recognize and seize the opportunity) There will be leaders that recognize the possibilities presented by Nesbit's research. Those leaders, like you have already done, will begin to imagine ways to improve the golf swings of both themselves and their students utilizing this newfound knowledge. They will be the "TOP 100 " teachers and their students the pga pro's of the future... count on it! I was down at the range the other day and this young girl and her dad came and set up in the stall next to me. She couldn't have been much more than 12 or 13 but when I heard a woosh out of my left ear as her dad was off getting balls from the machine I began to take notice. Her dad having returned split the bucket between the two of then and she began knocking the heck out of them! I mean here's a young girl probably 100 lbs max (but flexible as a noodle) and she driving 200 yards easily! I though about Nesbit's findings; I wish I had a way to visualize her hand path and confirm my suspicions. What was really funny was when this girl starts telling her Dad why he's slicing! "Lemme see your grip dad..." "here do it more like this"... " Hey you're right , he says".... "I'm always right Dad.... I've had so many lessons (she says with a smile)" Future LPGAer? I wonder. no_mind_golfer View Public Profile Send a private message to no_mind_golfer Find all posts by no_mind_golfer