What I cannot possibly understand, and believe me I've tried, is how can anybody have a relaxed, tension free swing if your head is trying to process 'wedges..pressure points..wheels..swivels..planes, etc.? Having over analyzed my swing since 1994 via Ledbetter,Hogan,Golf Digest and a half dozen instructors, I saw my handicap go from 7 to 16. Yikes! Learning to turn off the 'inner critic' and letting my natural swing emerge was the hardest thing to relearn but I'm getting there and so are my scores. Sorry guys and gals and Yoda too, but for me TGM is way more than I need to know about the swing.
TGM provide what must happen in a swing to PLAY good golf. And the technical knowledge is a more for Golf Engineers( aka freaks) , Instructors. Players do not need TGM to benifit TGM.you just need a TGM coach who understands.TGM way of execution is via FEEL. from pressure points and visual equivalent
Understanding basic concept of TGM will yield compatible parts. which doesn't clash with physics, centrifugal , and power delivery.. Does not support One way but support individual My Way methods.
But, make no mistake.. all good golf swing starts with a great preshot routine. to rehearse the alignments( flying wedge), to waggle the pressure points, impact fix, weight shift etc.. that is where the swing starts and get programed. And the swing get monitored via pressure points ( pressure sets direction and control power)
I'm trying to make it short.. but OOPS ;p
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What I cannot possibly understand, and believe me I've tried, is how can anybody have a relaxed, tension free swing if your head is trying to process 'wedges..pressure points..wheels..swivels..planes, etc.? Having over analyzed my swing since 1994 via Ledbetter,Hogan,Golf Digest and a half dozen instructors, I saw my handicap go from 7 to 16. Yikes! Learning to turn off the 'inner critic' and letting my natural swing emerge was the hardest thing to relearn but I'm getting there and so are my scores. Sorry guys and gals and Yoda too, but for me TGM is way more than I need to know about the swing.
It isn't for everyone.... apparently... but yes, you are missing something.
What I cannot possibly understand, and believe me I've tried, is how can anybody have a relaxed, tension free swing if your head is trying to process 'wedges..pressure points..wheels..swivels..planes, etc.? Having over analyzed my swing since 1994 via Ledbetter,Hogan,Golf Digest and a half dozen instructors, I saw my handicap go from 7 to 16. Yikes! Learning to turn off the 'inner critic' and letting my natural swing emerge was the hardest thing to relearn but I'm getting there and so are my scores. Sorry guys and gals and Yoda too, but for me TGM is way more than I need to know about the swing.
Knowledge, in my opinion, is never a bad thing to have at ones disposal. You can always choose not to use it or use only as much as you think you need. A PhD in Physics can always still work at McD's if they wish. However, when you have a problem to solve, having the knowledge to analyze and solve the problem puts you way ahead of the game. Knowing why is very powerful.
On another note, IMO, there is nothing natural about the game of golf or the golf stroke. We as humans are not as we are today due to natural selection of those who hit the best 7-iron 2 million years ago. There is always some amount of information and knowledge each person's swing is based upon. It is a learned behavior. Some pick it up easier than others and gravitate towards a good stroke without the need for a lot of instruction and practice. We say they are a "natural" at golf or have a good "natural" swing, but it really just means the game came easily to them and their conversion of knowledge into stroke was especially efficient.
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What I cannot possibly understand, and believe me I've tried, is how can anybody have a relaxed, tension free swing if your head is trying to process 'wedges..pressure points..wheels..swivels..planes, etc.?
You cannot swing a golf club intellectually. You can only swing it kinesthetically. The Golf Stroke happens too fast for it to be otherwise.
Even so, there is no escaping the fact that every Golf Stroke involves Mechanics. If those Mechanics are sound -- a heroic assumption for most of us -- then proper Execution (3-F-6) will produce the desired result. If they are not, then even their correct Execution will yield limited success.
The road to true golfing progress is paved with disciplined effort directed toward well-defined objectives. The work is to properly identify each required Mechanic and then reduce it to a Feel (Crash Translation / 3-C). Then, that Feel must become one with the others (Relative Translation / 3-D). Only then can you rely upon Feel to reliably execute a sound Total Motion with little or no consious thought (Expanded Translation / 3-E).
The Basic Motion Curriculum (12-5-0/1/2/3) points the way. Feel becomes the Golfer's Structure...Structure that aligns Force geometrically into efficient Motion.
And the foundation for that Golf Stroke Structure -- Golf Stroke Feel -- is Educated Hands.
Thanks for the insight Yoda. I agree that sound mechanics are the gateway in anything requiring a physical effort. And I now understand that this is more a forum for discussions of the TGM model for teachers and not how they teach it. I'm playing golf in a Shivas Irons world so in my case, as the saying goes, " a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Thanks again and I remain curious.
Thanks for the insight Yoda. I agree that sound mechanics are the gateway in anything requiring a physical effort. And I now understand that this is more a forum for discussions of the TGM model for teachers and not how they teach it. I'm playing golf in a Shivas Irons world so in my case, as the saying goes, " a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Thanks again and I remain curious.
"a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
It flourishes on all the golf instruction forums. That the time to incubate a little more.
It is not a forum for teachers. It is a forum to understand Homer Kelley’s The Golfing Machine, to shed light on his Brevity. There are many outstanding videos on this site that explains with insight and clarity the basic concepts of pulling or pushing a golf club into impact. Feed your brain and educate your Hands and you will NEVER blackout over the ball with this thought or that tip circling in your head. You will be surprised how easy it is to acquire a feeling that you can repeat over and over.
This is NOT rocket science but it also isn’t handful of tips covered in a few pages of a magazine. Nothing outside my family has given me as much pleasure as learning TGM with Yoda these past few years. G.O.L.F. is superior to golf without periods.
You never think about this stuff when your actually hitting a shot except in practice. You must program yourself to make the stroke variation you wish to use before you hit the shot. Before the shot is for thinking, during the shot is concentration - never mix up the two.
What I cannot possibly understand, and believe me I've tried, is how can anybody have a relaxed, tension free swing if your head is trying to process 'wedges..pressure points..wheels..swivels..planes, etc.? Having over analyzed my swing since 1994 via Ledbetter,Hogan,Golf Digest and a half dozen instructors, I saw my handicap go from 7 to 16. Yikes! Learning to turn off the 'inner critic' and letting my natural swing emerge was the hardest thing to relearn but I'm getting there and so are my scores. Sorry guys and gals and Yoda too, but for me TGM is way more than I need to know about the swing.
When you go from a 7 to a 16 there are probably some "un-golflike" motions going on. Many "method" or "the way" instructors tie us up in knots trying to make the "Perfect Swing". The "perfect swing" in my book is one which produces the desired results, regardless of its beauty.
The beauty of the golf swing is individual and YOUR knowlege of it. It has taken me many years and many hours of analysis to determine that what I did many years ago that produced good shots WAS correct and I really did not need to change anything, only add a little precision to what I already did.
There are only 3 imperatives, and they are simple to understand. The 3 essentials I live by as well. The rest of it is only a means to achieve these goals. Please do not get frustrated. When you do, you lose! Start small, progress at YOUR pace, and absolutely find an AI in your area that you trust and can help you become A GOLFING MACHINE. We are all here to help.
Hopefully you will stay curious and not shy away from a basic understanding of Homer's work. I too have been lured by the tips and instruction books that are everywhere...all of which are conflicting and can lead to a disintegration of a sound swing that may only need minor adjustments to attain true precision. I can't imagine anyone can play good golf on the course with more than one or two swing thoughts. There are top notch players on this site...it would be interesting to get confirmation on this one.
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