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Old 11-03-2009, 10:54 PM
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Mr. Hogan Sequence
Gentlemen....please take a look at this sequence of Mr. Hogan...it's awesome
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:22 PM
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Look at frames 1,13 and 14. There's no wind. He's moving so fast that his clothes keep going.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:14 AM
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the transition between frames 6,7 and 8 has always interested me...John Schlee ( a weekend clinic a long time ago) told me that the left knee moving laterally down the target line was a conscious move...TGM I believe teaches that it is a reaction to the supporting of the hip slide. Comments/help.... 12pb?
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:24 AM
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the transition between frames 6,7 and 8 has always interested me...John Schlee ( a weekend clinic a long time ago) told me that the left knee moving laterally down the target line was a conscious move...TGM I believe teaches that it is a reaction to the supporting of the hip slide. Comments/help.... 12pb?
I would agree, for Hogan it sure does appear to be a conscious move. A very useful one IMO.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:01 PM
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Id agree with that too EdZ, Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn.

Ive always wondered about this particular swing. Do you think it was his long bomb, super high trajectory swing for the camera. He seems to be tilting back for than norma and giving it ride. I know he did long drive exhibitions maybe this was the swing he employed? Not a tournament swing I dont think.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:58 PM
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Was it a pre-accident swing?
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hg View Post
the transition between frames 6,7 and 8 has always interested me...John Schlee ( a weekend clinic a long time ago) told me that the left knee moving laterally down the target line was a conscious move...TGM I believe teaches that it is a reaction to the supporting of the hip slide. Comments/help.... 12pb?
Hogan's hips went more forward than anybody ever period . . . as soon as the knee loses it's flex the hips want to spin instead of keep going forward. Schlee=on the money. Another thing to check from 7 to 8 is look how he's using the ground . . . the head has clearly gone down some . . . looks like Barkely going down into the court fixin' to snatch a rebound . . . then in the frames from then on . . . springing up. BIG POWER MOVE.






This would be swinging from the feet . . . full radius stuff . . . every pivot component going from out of line to in line ankles to knees to hips to each of them vertibraes . . . to the lever assemblies . . . everything loaded and RELEASED TO FULL EXTESION . . . pivot components and power package components.

Any similarities???











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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Id agree with that too EdZ, Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn.

Ive always wondered about this particular swing. Do you think it was his long bomb, super high trajectory swing for the camera. He seems to be tilting back for than norma and giving it ride. I know he did long drive exhibitions maybe this was the swing he employed? Not a tournament swing I dont think.
This is without question more of "slasher" type hogan swing than others . . . HOWEVER . . . those principles were there ALWAYS . . maybe more nuanced . . . but there . . . check these out . . .



You can see Eldrick and Hogan in similar alignments HOWEVER . . . check the right shoulder location . . . which right shoulder is fulfilling a true down out and forward motion? Who's clubface is going to move about the sweet spot faster?



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Old 11-06-2009, 01:18 AM
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Maybe more in the new action?
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:09 AM
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For sure 12 Piece. I love that move.

In regard to this particular swing I wonder whether it is an insight into his machine adjustments for an extreme "special purposes" type situation. Hogan going John Daly for the camera. I think this swing from his late forties shot making demonstration at Augusta, not a tournament or a practice session even. He seems to be hanging back to me more than normal, if you watch the entire swing he backs out of the shot actually. My guess is that he was, in our terms, moving his left shoulder back vis a vis the ball to add some height to the trajectory in addition to really swinging hard it. A Remax Long Drive type swing deal. Nothing is new I guess. He is sacrificing balance (very, very rare for him) for launch angle and distance. I only mention this because while its a very interesting swing from a power move perspective and machine adjustment perspective, it isnt I dont think representative of his swing pre accident, Power Golf , or his tournament swing from that era or anything. Not exactly.
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