I have just started doing the right forearm takeaway. I was searching how to do this AND get extensor action...I felt narrow with zero EA today. The idea of resisting with the left shoulder is like a light bulb turning on above my head. It is a foreign thought though...I have been thinking "left shoulder down and back" to start the swing for years...and it naturally was following my right elbow back with RFT attempts.
Thank you, I'll resist with L shoulder now.
And I didn't understand RFT or Hitting!
Sorry Daryl and HB!
Pat
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this is my first post. though i have been learning a lot from all on this site. thanks Lynn and to all that contribute.
my question is on extensor action. when i try to focus on EA it always seems to build tension into my game and i swing worse.
does this happen for anyone else, and how can i use EA without adding any extra tension into my swing?
Welcome plane tracer you chose a great topic for ur first post, extensor action is one of if not THE most important things in the golf motion, it does Sooooooo many things youcannot believe it yet hardly anyone uses it because they are simply doing it wrong. Extensor action should eliminate tension, it is simply a gentle stretch of the left arm by the right tricep to maintain the left arms natural(not hyperextended) length. Note that the stretch does not increase or is not trying to stretch it more and more it's simply a very light stetch that is maintained and not increased or decreased. Here is a drill/preshot waggle to help you feel extensor without tension. At address let both arms softly fold in towards your stomach then gently extend the clubhead down to the ball using the right tricep until the left arm is at it's natural length again it is a very light tension free pressure not increasing
or a large amount. By doing this you will assure both arms are soft an yet you have extensor and are ready to maintain it throughout the motion without tension, hope this helps
Daryl, it appears that your EA instructional tips on this thread were posted in 2010. I am relatively new to TGM and found your advice about 1 month ago. Well, after much practice hitting plastic balls in my man cave, I took my new 'swinging' stroke to the course yesterday. Shot a 72 with 3 birdies (should have been 5)and matched my all time best score. Note, this was only my 3rd round of the year! Looking forward to a new season using EA and feeling the #3PP - the 'secret' of golf.
Hope you get to see this post and please accept my sincere apprection for sharing your TGM insights. OB Left deserves credit as well. I loved his description of always 'metering' the #3PP as well. Thanks OB
With EA, the Right Arm straightens as it would wile performing a Reverse Arm Curl, where the Palm of the Right Hand is facing you as triceps pressure is applied. As the right hand lowers, its path is an Arc, and the hand moves away from the right shoulder with a Stationary Elbow until the Right Arm is Straight. #1 PP is more like a Push-up.
The difference is important. When using the #1 PP, the Right Hand moves away from the Shoulder in a straight line and the Elbow moves in-line with the Hand Path and Stationary Right Shoulder. This causes a straight Right Arm.
Both Actions are performed with the Inside of the Right Wrist Visible to the eye from Start-up to Both Arms Straight. And, its easy to feel that both Actions are very different and can be performed simultaneously for the "Hitter".
So, EA doesn't move the Right Elbow while the #1 PP does. The primary purpose of EA to control the Right Elbow.
With EA, the Right Arm straightens as it would wile performing a Reverse Arm Curl, where the Palm of the Right Hand is facing you as triceps pressure is applied. As the right hand lowers, its path is an Arc, and the hand moves away from the right shoulder with a Stationary Elbow until the Right Arm is Straight. #1 PP is more like a Push-up.
The difference is important. When using the #1 PP, the Right Hand moves away from the Shoulder in a straight line and the Elbow moves in-line with the Hand Path and Stationary Right Shoulder. This causes a straight Right Arm.
Both Actions are performed with the Inside of the Right Wrist Visible to the eye from Start-up to Both Arms Straight. And, its easy to feel that both Actions are very different and can be performed simultaneously for the "Hitter".
So, EA doesn't move the Right Elbow while the #1 PP does. The primary purpose of EA to control the Right Elbow.
Interesting!
I think ( but am not sure) That U Have it the "right way".
I found 2 ways to apply EA but the intuitive method is wrong and will do more harm than good. so, it is probably 60-40 that it will be applied wrong and will be abandoned.
I tried a discussion here about 2+ years ago but feel as though I got my head chopped off so I won't go there again.
BUT
If U have it right your explanations can be of great value for understanding proper EA application.
Extensor Action is Below Plane through-out the Stroke.
#1 Accumulator is On-Plane.
What Alignment is needed to allow this?
Both use Triceps Muscle but only when the Flying Wedges are Aligned at 90 degrees can you have both Actions. I think this is an important point.
The 90 degree Wedge Alignment allows the Right Forearm Wedge to remain at Right Angles to the Left Arm Plane while the Clubshaft is On-Plane. The Clubshaft is on Both Planes Simultaneously.
This needs the the "Inside" of the Right Wrist to be visible (Facing you) through-out the the Swing from the End of Start-up to Follow-through.
Most Pros include this Alignment from the Top and during the Downstroke but HK uses the Right Forearm Take-away so the Alignment is available in Both Directions.
Extensor Action is Below Plane through-out the Stroke.
#1 Accumulator is On-Plane.
What Alignment is needed to allow this?
Both use Triceps Muscle but only when the Flying Wedges are Aligned at 90 degrees can you have both Actions. I think this is an important point.
The 90 degree Wedge Alignment allows the Right Forearm Wedge to remain at Right Angles to the Left Arm Plane while the Clubshaft is On-Plane. The Clubshaft is on Both Planes Simultaneously.
This needs the the "Inside" of the Right Wrist to be visible (Facing you) through-out the the Swing from the End of Start-up to Follow-through.
Most Pros include this Alignment from the Top and during the Downstroke but HK uses the Right Forearm Take-away so the Alignment is available in Both Directions.
Now I'm not sure where you fit.
2 questions- which is more like EA? A or B?
1. opening a door- door opens out and knob is on the right:
A. turn knob counterclockwise and push? B. Turn knob clockwise and push?
2. Pushing away and getting up from your desk:
A. palm on edge and fingers UNDER edge? B palm on edge and fingers on TOP of desk?
??? what is your opinion? Anyone else have answers?
HB
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