"Start the bending of the right forearm right from the start of the take away and work on that with the sequence of the pivot watching in a mirror and you will have a perfect take away in no time."
May I add that it is advisable to start with the right arm in a bent condition right from start-up. The degree of bend of the elbow is determined by what it takes to keep the right forearm on plane with the shaft (sweetspot plane) at address. Mid-body hands...impact hands...no matter... it is a good idea to give the right forearm a relationship with the sweetspot, or at least very close. Unfortunately for us mortals the temporary immortals on the various tours tend to set up with straight right arms, leaving the impressions that that is the way to go about it. Don't forget both arms are straight only at follow through, ergo anything up plane of followthrough has the right arm bent! Magic of the right forearm!
I have just ordered the Alignment DVDs but I feel as if starting with the right arm bent and start takeaway in this fashion I lose my extensor action in left arm. I was told to envisage trying to straigten the right arm on take away to ensure a wide swing arc.
I have just ordered the Alignment DVDs but I feel as if starting with the right arm bent and start takeaway in this fashion I lose my extensor action in left arm. I was told to envisage trying to straigten the right arm on take away to ensure a wide swing arc.
Hopefully the DVD's will clear this up.
Your starting at a good place, the on plane right forearm at address.
The Right Arm is bent until Both Arms Straight. Its trying to straighten (Extensor Action) but is prevented from doing so by the rope like Check Rein Action of the Left Arm. As the Left Arm moves or is moved across the body the Right Elbow bends to accommodate the shortening on one side of the triangle. To move the left arm is to shorten the right side, bend the right elbow. Or vice versa. Confusing but beautiful. Stick with it, you'll learn to love Extensor Action, hard to adopt though it is. Try the search function and enjoy the DVDs.
One more thought.......to attain the on plane Right Forearm and Clubshaft at address and have a bent right elbow, the Right Shoulder and Centered Head have to move around/adjust a little. This is pretty much the position they will be in at Impact. To start in another position at address is to necessitate those head and right shoulder movements dynamically during the swing. A "Wobble". Not so good, very hard to get it done on short shots too where you dont have much time. Another logical, simplification from Mr Kelley.
Sorta like tuning a Machine, a Golfing Machine. Take away all the extra movements and tune out the wobbles to achieve consistent, smooth, long running operation.
I was not really sure where to post this, but I though this was a good, a place as any. Tuesday in Houston I got to work with a few guys and decided that since I had my Nokia N93 video phone I would take a few swings. Hope you enjoy..!
I was not really sure where to post this, but I though this was a good, a place as any. Tuesday in Houston I got to work with a few guys and decided that since I had my Nokia N93 video phone I would take a few swings. Hope you enjoy..!
Yea, the stuff they come out with right! This is a Nokia N93 video phone that has golf software like V1 on it. If you saw the last Borne Identity "The Borne Ultimatum" the guys charging the office with guns that had camera's on there gun, thats the cell phone.
Thanks for the help, I thought that I might be right with the set up of the hands, it varies from each individual correct? As for the take away, I am aware of the hands but I guess I am scared for the hands to go in working around me, and keeping club out front. I was a Hardy One Plane Guy for a long time, in fact I was the ginny pig for most of the drills and concepts. I had videos of me them and now and I sucked the club in bad with a hooded face in the so called lawn mower move to start the back swing. Now the club is rotating open going back and I gues the hands are not working around enough to keep the left arm from creating seperation. Something to work on, I'll get it some how..
Thanks,
BurleyGolf
BurleyGolf,
To me the one plan stuff is a "move" without reference except as to position. You suched the clubhead in IMO because the hands and arms were following the pivoting body. If you continue to trace the straight plane line with the on plane right forearm, the #3PP (sweetspot) for the entire duration of the stroke you will no doubt notice that the club appears to be outside the hands, with good radius etc. But what is especially note worthy is the understanding of the seperation of zone 1 (pivot) , from zone 2 (arms) and 3 (hands) 2 and 3 have seperate identities as well but pivot controlled hands is less precise. Less often now but my bad habit was getting under plane with my left wrist arched and the club face shut (open) at top...the only benefit to this was that my hands were always leading. At times however I did not reestablish the same amount of lean and the ball would go left...way left (where paciderms go to pack it in!) I have "good hands" so I would manipulate it OK most of the time. I posted today already about the importance of learning how to trace the straight base line of my chosen plane. I think the MacDonald drills are great, but as soon as I put a club in my hands my pivot seemed unruly. Tracing a straight line with flash lights laser pointers etc. revealed to me that when I am on plane my pivot was a responsive action. When I focus on my pivot without a club it tells me the extent and feel of the correct pivot...but when I have a club in my hands the pivot as I already said is responsive. EVERYTHING complies with the plane. you drag, you thrust, you hinge on plane. I built a "low bench rail" out of PVC in addition to lasers and flash lights. I hit most of my indoor basic motion shots using this rail. Talk about class time for my hands. I am amazed at how often my chip shots are executed with an off-plane motion. I call them "flatties" ie lacking 3-D impact. I know straight line thrust and tracing are not the same, but I think that the shape of your stroke (plane) comes first.
I challenged my players (six months ago)to do some of the indoor drills for 15 minutes a week. That is roughly 6 hours. The best of the bunch managed 45 minutes...total! Meaning? They want to improve without changing! They do however hit hundreds of range balls! Homer's easy test for being on plane is ridiculously simple...a five year old can tell if he is on plane or not! In golf it is polite to point!
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